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My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community

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Re: My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community

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> "There was another time that he insisted on having intercourse regardless of me saying I didn’t want to" This is rape is it not? Whoever this guy is, in my opinion this case should get in front of the judges. I can't imagine what the author of the story have gone through.

Rape is doing it, not insisting, I think.

Sex was had while she did not consent, she mentions in the fifth paragraph.

Re: My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community

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I have no clue on who this guy is nor do I have any sort of interest in Scala but this is terrible. If this is even remotely true I hope he suffers enormous consequences including being persecuted. How are people still getting away with this kind of abuse? How?

>How are people still getting away with this kind of abuse? How?

It's quite simple, really.

You know that phenomenon you see here on HN with big names like Steve Jobs or RMS, or Elon Musk? The phenomenon where people give them a pass for being disgusting, abusive assholes because "he's a genius/luminary/visionary" or because "his contributions to $thing are so great"?

It's the same phenomenon with people like Jon Pretty.

Re: My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community

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post #9

first, a small rant: tbf. I dislike the title. the real title is sexual harassment from Jon Pretty a leader of certain Scala Community standups. because the current title actually sounds like it's the whole commnity, but the blog is about a specific guy. --- second I really do not understand, how other people can be so horrible. he basically abused her in a moment where she was really really desperate and I think suc…

> In June, Heather noticed that I was upset at a dinner after ScalaDays. I shared with her about what happened. She warned me to stay away from Jon Pretty. And she wasn’t the only person who told me that. Even though my experience in Berlin was awful, it was difficult for me to accept that someone, who seemed like a good friend, mentor, and ally, could be so selfish, manipulative, and cruel.

It sounds like people knew about him and didn't do anything. If the community is allowing it to happen, then the community is as much at fault as the sick individual doing the abuse.

Re: My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community

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This is just downright disgusting, does somebody know if there have been consequences? I usually go to general or Go conferences and wonder if there is similiar stuff happening, but i have a good feeling since at least the go conferences alway emphasize inclusion. Lets hope this is true.

Re: My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community

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I have no clue on who this guy is nor do I have any sort of interest in Scala but this is terrible. If this is even remotely true I hope he suffers enormous consequences including being persecuted. How are people still getting away with this kind of abuse? How?

It takes a critical mass of accusers to break past the inherent power differential and take down an influential figure without getting blacklisted. There are various reasons this often doesn’t happen. For one, it’s a coordination problem and second e.g. this post describes his clever choice in targeting immigrant women who don’t have much knowledge of western sexual norms and can be gaslit more easily.

Re: My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community

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I have no clue on who this guy is nor do I have any sort of interest in Scala but this is terrible. If this is even remotely true I hope he suffers enormous consequences including being persecuted. How are people still getting away with this kind of abuse? How?

Because people don't believe victims. They insist that somehow they gave consent, or that somehow the assaulter just couldn't have known. Or they blame the victim, saying that "they deserved it" or "they shouldn't have been in that situation in the first place."

I guarantee you that someone will post in this thread, if they haven't already, that she should know better than to get an airbnb with a man she doesn't know well. No, this isn't her fault. The dude should not have abused her.

Re: My experience with sexual harassment in the Scala community

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similar stories are emerging:

- https://killnicole.github.io/statement/ (edit i see she has added it to the article itself)

- https://twitter.com/brianclapper/status/1387115214064193537?...

- https://twitter.com/adelbertchang/status/1387090351626723329...

there seems to be some coordination here, as this came out pretty much at the same time. https://typelevel.org/blog/2021/04/27/community-safety.html

Yifan also linked to this piece on What You Can Do: https://hypatia.ca/2014/08/05/what-you-can-do/

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