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Web Developer here. Wouldn't accept anything less than 32GB for a work machine.
Now I know why all the websites I use are so slow :D
haha so true
Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model
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Which Ryzen laptop currently competes with the latest macbooks in terms of form factor, performance, battery life and build quality? I'm honestly asking, I've been thinking about getting a Linux laptop in a while and I would be curious to see what the playing field is like
Have you used a recent Macbook? The Macbook Pro keyboard is unique in that is is the only time in my life I have ever experienced a keyboard breaking. I think people are a little too nostalgic when talking about Apple build quality. There's a 2011 MBP here that still works well. But recent releases... no better than the competition really.
You have to test new keyboard on M1 MBA/MBP
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#373Personally I think Apple has completed its shift from a computer manufacturer to a processor manufacturer who serves two internal clients the software division and the consumer electronics division.
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Have you used a recent Macbook? The Macbook Pro keyboard is unique in that is is the only time in my life I have ever experienced a keyboard breaking. I think people are a little too nostalgic when talking about Apple build quality. There's a 2011 MBP here that still works well. But recent releases... no better than the competition really.
Are you aware that the latest generation has a new keyboard? It's not the fiasco that the previous super-slim one was.
Once bitten, twice shy.
I considered that keyboard to be designed to fail. I'm not interested in gambling that another component won't fail the same way. It's easier to use products that have not demonstrated such designed failures.
The good news however is that due to this garbage tier engineering I've discovered that desktop Linux is more stable for me than post-Catalina OSX - I'd have probably never found this out otherwise.
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Web Developer here. Wouldn't accept anything less than 32GB for a work machine.
Now I know why all the websites I use are so slow :D
You joke, but I think this is actually true. If companies gave their developers of client-facing software slower computers the resulting software would end up being faster.
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I am not sure what the end-game for releasing those under-powered machines is, tbh. I am a bit more extreme in that I am not buying any machine below 32GB given RAM is no longer upgradable, but even if my mom came and asked me about those iMacs, I'd tell her to not buy. It's a shame that Apple is so great at greenwashing and at the same time spits on every way they could help create truly sustainable products by just…
> I am not sure what the end-game for releasing those under-powered machines is, tbh The lowest and highest tier exist only to shift consumers towards the middle tier, where Apple profits the most and where lies less value for the consumer. It is a marketing strategy invented by Apple IIRC (it's been a long time since my marketing exam).
Of course it wasn’t invented by Apple, that would be ridiculous.
It was actually invented by Goldilocks.
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#377One thing which I don't think has been commented on is the marketing effort behind the M1. It's getting a lot of prominence and its use across lots of computers means that there can be a consistent message that "M1 is great - get a new Mac and get an M1". It also provides an opportunity to distinguish between M1 and the next generation M2 (presumably). I've always thought Intel's marketing was a bit confused - i7 sta…
Yeah the marketing effort is immense, and it's really surprising to me how many eagerly lap up the angle Apple is pushing without much reflection, even on HN. Like the good old Apple hype days. Now to be fair, the M1 is an impressive iteration on the A* chip line. But the Ryzen 5000 mobile chips really don't look bad at all in comparison, and a 5nm version of those would level the field.
I didn’t buy the hype until I tested an actual M1. It exceeded the hype. It feels like when I was a kid and went from a 386SX to a Pentium at 4X the speed, except the M1 was also a quarter the power consumption.
It’s the first time in a over a decade I’ve felt a revolutionary step forward in a chip and the only time it has ever come with less power.
Process node is a factor but I find it hard to believe it’s the only factor. I know enough about the X86 legacy tax to know that is not the case.
Apple didn’t do black magic. They just took a cleaner superior CPU architecture and made a desktop class muscular chip with it. Other ARM manufacturers could equal or exceed the M1 if they wanted. X86 has been delivered a death sentence.
IMHO the greatest threat to AMD is ARM not Intel, and vice versa.
Re: Apple’s M1 Positioning Mocks the Entire x86 Business Model
#378One thing which I don't think has been commented on is the marketing effort behind the M1. It's getting a lot of prominence and its use across lots of computers means that there can be a consistent message that "M1 is great - get a new Mac and get an M1". It also provides an opportunity to distinguish between M1 and the next generation M2 (presumably). I've always thought Intel's marketing was a bit confused - i7 sta…
> I've always thought Intel's marketing was a bit confused - i7 stays the same over 10+ years
I think that is because the performance has been the same for the past 10+ years.
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#379Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which Ryzen laptop currently competes with the latest macbooks in terms of form factor, performance, battery life and build quality? I'm honestly asking, I've been thinking about getting a Linux laptop in a while and I would be curious to see what the playing field is like
Have you used a recent Macbook? The Macbook Pro keyboard is unique in that is is the only time in my life I have ever experienced a keyboard breaking. I think people are a little too nostalgic when talking about Apple build quality. There's a 2011 MBP here that still works well. But recent releases... no better than the competition really.
Which competitor has a touchpad that’s equal to or better than apple?
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So a future hypothetical AMD processor could be as good as the M1, and that shows how M1 is just marketing hype?
It's only "future" because Apple strongarms the whole market with their market position buying whole 5nm TSMC capacity
By “strongarms” do you mean “places the highest bid”?