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How to find a job as Software Developer in Germany

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Re: How to find a job as Software Developer in Germany

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post #51

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You’re saying it like everyone can’t wait to live in a welfare state and having to provide for the “welfare” of others. I for one am not looking for anything else than good healthcare. There’s nothing “tilted” for life when you struggle to make ends meet while paying sky-high rent and having no prospects of ever owning your home.

> having to provide for the “welfare” of others. It's only fair. Once you get old, the young and healthy will pay for your hospital stay, too, through the insurance mix. But we could also just let you die because you can't pay the treatment. You'll have to decide, there's no free cake in the end.

I pay for my own healthcare insurance, as healthcare is not free in Germany. So your points are invalid as far as I’m concerned.

Re: How to find a job as Software Developer in Germany

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post #87

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Let's do some simple (and probably wrong, but hey) maths: - House price: 450K euro - In Europe you usually need around 30% of the house in cash (20% for down payment and 10% for paperwork and the like). This means you need 135K euro saved. Saving 18K euro/year => you need to save money for 7 years - Now you get a mortage for the 70% of the 450K euro (315K euro). Now depending on how much you want to pay every month,…

Thats wrong. At least right now. 10% down payment is quite common currently in Germany for a house.

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Re: How to find a job as Software Developer in Germany

#103
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let's do some simple (and probably wrong, but hey) maths: - House price: 450K euro - In Europe you usually need around 30% of the house in cash (20% for down payment and 10% for paperwork and the like). This means you need 135K euro saved. Saving 18K euro/year => you need to save money for 7 years - Now you get a mortage for the 70% of the 450K euro (315K euro). Now depending on how much you want to pay every month,…

Thats wrong. At least right now. 10% down payment is quite common currently in Germany for a house.

Well the money still needs to be paid at some point. If you go the 10% deposit route, you will get slightly worse interest rates and overall higher monthly payments. Payments that you need to maintain for ~20 years…

Re: How to find a job as Software Developer in Germany

#104
post #12

> To sum up: if you are single and opt for "live cool and don't care about expenses" style, then an average developer salary will be enough (it might be harder if you have a family to feed). > On the other hand, if you choose to go the student-like route (living in Wohngemeinschaft and not eating out too much), you can easily manage with just 1.200-1.500 EUR per month, and save the majority of your salary. I know it…

Why's that? Saving 18k for 5 years would yield you 90k€, which would be an appropriate 20% down payment on the 450k€ house.

When I bought a 250K€ apartment in the Netherlands, my total cash outlay (down payment plus costs) was around 40K€. Anecdotal point supporting those pointing out that owning a 450K€ home in Europe is indeed still within reach for someone saving a modest amount each year.

Re: How to find a job as Software Developer in Germany

#105

> To sum up: if you are single and opt for "live cool and don't care about expenses" style, then an average developer salary will be enough (it might be harder if you have a family to feed). > On the other hand, if you choose to go the student-like route (living in Wohngemeinschaft and not eating out too much), you can easily manage with just 1.200-1.500 EUR per month, and save the majority of your salary. I know it…

Its not an unpopular opinion in my book. The first sentence, especially the "it might be harder if you have a family to feed", is distressing. If an average developer salary is not enough to do that, then, what are the jobs that DO allow you that ?

Doctor, Lawyer or a couple where both work full time and earn good salaries.

Re: How to find a job as Software Developer in Germany

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post #101

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> having to provide for the “welfare” of others. It's only fair. Once you get old, the young and healthy will pay for your hospital stay, too, through the insurance mix. But we could also just let you die because you can't pay the treatment. You'll have to decide, there's no free cake in the end.

I pay for my own healthcare insurance, as healthcare is not free in Germany. So your points are invalid as far as I’m concerned.

Ah, that's fine.

Everybody will also pay for all the infrastructure you might be using and the others not.

Re: How to find a job as Software Developer in Germany

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post #82
post #65

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Prices have beeen going up steadily for the last 10-15 years. Maybe there was a single dip in 2008-2010.

Past performance of an asset is no guarantee for future performance.

Especially when the populational trends imply that demand for housing will go down on the distant future. Future performance is almost guaranteed to decouple from past performance at some point.

Re: How to find a job as Software Developer in Germany

#108
post #101

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I pay for my own healthcare insurance, as healthcare is not free in Germany. So your points are invalid as far as I’m concerned.

Ah, that's fine. Everybody will also pay for all the infrastructure you might be using and the others not.

Non-welfare states also have infrastructure, so no worry about that.

Re: How to find a job as Software Developer in Germany

#109
post #82

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Past performance of an asset is no guarantee for future performance.

I don't care about past performance, I'm only looking at the future and unless there will be a future building boom in the cities to increase supply(spoiler alert, it won't because a million reasons) and unless there will be a sharp drop in internal and external immigration to the cities with jobs, prices will keep rising.

Have you exhausted all options for why prices will only increase?

I can see a scenario in which inflation rises and increased mortgage rates deflate the current overvalued housing market.

Re: How to find a job as Software Developer in Germany

#110

I'm surprised the article says nothing about certifications and or degrees, only work experience. I don't work in Software Engineering but I would have assumed that - like anywhere else in Germany - a university degree is required more often than abroad. Or am I wrong about that?

They matter only if you are a junior. I've worked with (and hired) Germans that never finished university. But if you don't have a degree, you need to be obviously good at what you do to get hired for good jobs.

The reality is that there are lots of not so great software engineers working for not so great salaries in not so great projects. That kind of stuff is hard to hide in a good interview. Supporting people with getting a visa is costly for companies so they tend to do that only with good people. Quality is the main reason to do this.

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