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Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by deergomoo »

gordon_freeman wrote: post #313
deergomoo wrote: post #257

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I sold my nearly maxed out 16" MacBook Pro for an M1 Air. I hated the 16" with a passion, but the Air is my favourite computer I've ever owned. It sounds like a criticism, but the best thing about it is that it gives me absolutely no cause to ever think about it. I don't get irritated by it being burning hot and loud as hell because it's always cool and silent. I don't have to worry about battery life because it just…

care to share hardware specs of your M1 Air?

Sure: 16” was 6-core i7, 32GB RAM, 512GB SSD, 5500M 4GB GPU

Air is M1 with the 8-core GPU, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD

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Post by [deleted] »

dmcginty wrote: post #242
rasengan wrote: post #218

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What I do these days is use an iPad Pro and use a cloud-based virtual desktop [1] so I have the best of both worlds with me. The caveat is that you can't do this without internet access. [1] https://shells.com/

This is a neat idea, but I feel like an iPad Pro is overkill for accessing a virtual desktop. You could set up something similar with an old laptop for a fraction of the price.

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Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by lofi_lory »

samatman wrote: post #304
smasher164 wrote: post #46

To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts. Take Excel for…

Things I do on an iPad, ranked by how unlikely I am to do them on another computer: - Draw. This is the big one. I'm no fine artist, but I do a bit of calligraphy now and then, and Procreate is amazing. - Make memes. It might not be more "productive" to caption funny pictures on my iPad than it would be to do it on desktop, but it's more fun. It feels more natural to manipulate images on a tablet. - Read PDFs. the 12…

For me the iPad (2018) was just the cheapest entry to the tablet + pen combo. I love digital pen input and the tablet for reading documents. For a moment I liked the app ecosystem and thought maybe the Apple hype is valid. Now, I hate the stupid limitations of iPadOS, the Appstore and the commercialisation of every god damn aspect of the iPad experience.

I would kill for a good Linux tablet with low latency pen input. Xournal++ and Krita would be completely sufficient.

Most apps and ideas I initially liked on the iPad, would be much better FOSS. So many apps ultimately fail for me because the developers trying hard to wall some garden, instead of implementing export/import of an open standard.

Oh and ofc, horrible file management and no code execution.

Fuck this shit. Stallman was right...

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by wayneftw »

tluyben2 wrote: post #358
wayneftw wrote: post #279

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Windows 10 does it perfectly. If you haven't used a Windows 10 tablet for any amount of time, I'd suggest trying it out. I've used small and large Windows tablets for many years and have yet to find any big complaints about the UX.

In your opinion ofcourse. I find Windows 10 tablet mode ghastly, especially compared to ipados or ios. The only nice thing is that you have a real OS. If this iPad would run macos or windows, I would leave laptops and phones behind from that moment in. But alas. Maybe the 2nd gen surface X?

I suppose everybody here should always preface their comment with IMO...

Good thing that if you don't like the way Windows 10 looks, you can easily change it. Other than that, functionally, everything just works and I'd challenge you to say what doesn't.

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Post by chongli »

pkulak wrote: post #184
clairity wrote: post #148

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> "...gesture-like latencies in between to get it to work." i hate that animations on ios are i/o blocking. every single time i have to enter my passcode, it misses at least one if not two of my keypresses, which means i have to erase the whole thing and do it more slowly since the missing keypresses are essentially random (not just the final one or two). another related annoyance is alert popups that occur more than…

"Pro" used to mean "professional" for Apple. Now it just means "expensive".

The iPad Pro is the only one with the ProMotion 120Hz display. The higher refresh rate is a big deal for pro users who want the pencil to be as low latency as possible.

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Post by lofi_lory »

camillomiller wrote: post #179
swiley wrote: post #109

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This is something I've been saying: Try cloning and building even a moderate project from github on iSH on the latest iThing with Apple silicon and compare the same on a pinephone with a decade old budget SoC. One will get painfully hot and visibly tick through a large fraction of the battery while not letting you look at anything else or look away from the screen without killing the 10s of minutes long operation whi…

Peak Hacker News. Comparing an iPad Pro with a Pinephone to do something 99.9% of iPad Pro target audience wouldn’t even know the meaning of.

How is that different from any other computer?

Point is, the limitation is software. Even an extremely underpowered niche toy beats the iPad in a common, intuitive task for such a device.

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Post by [deleted] »

rrrrrrrrrrrryan wrote: post #334
clairity wrote: post #148

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> "...gesture-like latencies in between to get it to work." i hate that animations on ios are i/o blocking. every single time i have to enter my passcode, it misses at least one if not two of my keypresses, which means i have to erase the whole thing and do it more slowly since the missing keypresses are essentially random (not just the final one or two). another related annoyance is alert popups that occur more than…

From my primitive understanding, many of the iOS animations are basically pre-rendered and played at the right time to cover up any CPU-intensive activities that are happening under the hood. Rather than display a laggy, stuttering input box that captures every keypress (eventually), they've chosen to lock you out from input entirely, force you to sit back and watch the beautiful transition, then allow you to input w…

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Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by lofi_lory »

crooked-v wrote: post #344
smasher164 wrote: post #46

To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts. Take Excel for…

Really, at this point the only things keeping me from replacing my everyday-use personal laptop with an iPad Pro or iPad Air are: - The lack of a true development environment local to the device - The lack of true background app support for things that need persistent connections (ssh clients, etc)

I honestly think there is a great opportunity for a Linux tablet plus pen input (high dpi; precision and low latency). People just don't know yet, that's what they want. FOSS would thrive there.

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Post by lofi_lory »

WORMS_EAT_WORMS wrote: post #25

If you have been passively reading about M1 and haven’t had the chance to upgrade your Air or MBP, just know it’s the real deal. I have never been happier with a laptop than this first generation M1 MBP. A little wild to think in — poof! — a single year we have gone to the Air, Mac Book Pro, iPad, and iMac sharing the SAME chip! Amazing, can’t wait for the new iPhone...

Have the USB-C PD issues been resolved? Like hubs frying the motherboard for some bad PD implementation?

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by armadsen »

justaguy88 wrote: post #244
foldr wrote: post #233

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Video and photo editing are common iPad Pro use cases where performance matters.

I always assumed that safari/youtube/netflix were the common use cases. Do numerically many people actually video/photo editing on these devices to make it "common"?

I make a (good) living working as an iOS developer on the video editing app (LumaFusion) shown several times in today's event. We have a very solid userbase, including plenty of people using it for professional work. Apple chose to use the app as a featured example in marketing the new iPad. To me, that's all evidence that video/photo editing is indeed a "common" use case for these devices.

Anecdotally, these days my wife (an artist) does digital painting and photo editing exclusively on her iPad Pro because she prefers the software available there combined with the Apple pencil.

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