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Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by technofiend »

Zenst wrote: post #143

Hmmm Does this have Ethernet as standard without a dongle? Asking as I can't see any mention beyond under the Thunderbolt section in which it has "Configurable with Gigabit Ethernet" slapped about. Gigabit Ethernet! If that's the max then that will upset some for sure.

Do you mean does it have an ethernet adapter? No according to the tech specs page: https://www.apple.com/ipad-pro/specs/

Their marketing blurb mentions 10 gigabit ethernet is available over the thunderbolt port.

Thunderbolt supports 10Gbps Ethernet and opens up a massive ecosystem of high-performance accessories, like faster external storage and even higher resolution external displays, including the Pro Display XDR at full 6K resolution, all connected using high-performance cables and docks.

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Post by jshen »

enos_feedler wrote: post #219
notJim wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me the overall experience just doesn't work as a productivity device. The gestures to multitask are too complex. Every edge and corner has a different meaning, and swiping does several different things depending on direction. It's not natural to have your monitor and keyboard super close together, and to have your monitor sitting directly on a desk. It's not comfortable to poke a semi-vertical touchscreen over a…

Productivity takes many shapes and forms. The use cases highlighted in the video were about capturing video podcasts, rendering previews in the field, etc. you can be productive without fitting into the traditional mold of productive computing. Thats what ipad is after.

ipad's limitations are arbitrary and have no strong reason to exist. I've been an apple fan for years, and bought my first PC in nearly 20 years recently because I shouldn't have to buy two very expensive apple devices (a mac, and an ipad) to cover all of my use cases.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by foldr »

swiley wrote: post #188
camillomiller wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Peak Hacker News. Comparing an iPad Pro with a Pinephone to do something 99.9% of iPad Pro target audience wouldn’t even know the meaning of.

If you're not going to do anything where performance matters why pay a premium for it?

Video and photo editing are common iPad Pro use cases where performance matters.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by manigandham »

clairity wrote: post #148
smasher164 wrote: post #46

To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts. Take Excel for…

> "...gesture-like latencies in between to get it to work." i hate that animations on ios are i/o blocking. every single time i have to enter my passcode, it misses at least one if not two of my keypresses, which means i have to erase the whole thing and do it more slowly since the missing keypresses are essentially random (not just the final one or two). another related annoyance is alert popups that occur more than…

Yes, this is why the default iPhone calculator app is completely useless.

These forced animations make tasks take the same amount of time regardless of how fast the hardware gets. I would love to be able to turn off all animations in iphone/ipad UIs.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by eigenvector »

clairity wrote: post #148
smasher164 wrote: post #46

To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts. Take Excel for…

> "...gesture-like latencies in between to get it to work." i hate that animations on ios are i/o blocking. every single time i have to enter my passcode, it misses at least one if not two of my keypresses, which means i have to erase the whole thing and do it more slowly since the missing keypresses are essentially random (not just the final one or two). another related annoyance is alert popups that occur more than…

Thanks for articulating this as I never understood why iOS suffers from this phenomenon. The only other place I've seen "typing too fast" result in garbled input is on Android based VoIP phone handsets, where if you try to "type" numbers too fast some of them get dropped - an amazing example of a device with many orders of magnitude more computing power than what it replaced still managing to be less performant.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by busymom0 »

smasher164 wrote: post #46

To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts. Take Excel for…

I hope they are making these changes in order to take iPad into MacOS direction. Based on MacOS big sur UI changes (icons are now rounded corner iPad like, menu bar has more spacing and iPad like controls etc), I think they are prepping for it.

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Post by rz2k »

christiansakai wrote: post #133

For this Mother's Day I am thinking of getting my old mother either an iPad Pro (M1) or Macbook Air (M1). Emphasized on "old" because she is technically quite illiterate. She does use iPhone though. I wonder what will be the better gift for her? Is iPad quite foolproof? I am thinking of getting the magic keyboard as well and the mouse in case she needs a mouse. Her workflow most likely just browsing, email, FaceTime,…

I'd go with an iPad over a MacBook Air, especially for the much better FaceTime camera. My parents (~80) use iPad Airs and thought the Pencil looked like a silly product until I convinced them to try using mine for a few days.

The current iPad, iPad Air, and iPad Pros all work with some version of the Pencil. Any recent iPad will have 1080p FaceTime rather than 720p of the MacBook Air. This new iPad Pro has even higher resolution with automatic panning that could be useful if they want to set up the iPad on the kitchen counter and walk around while they talk to you.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by pyrophane »

evertheylen wrote: post #230

Lots of people in here talking about trying to use to a tablet for productivity, but finding iPad OS a bit lacking. I'd cautiously suggest you check out the Samsung Tab S7(+). It is likely considered a worse tablet by many, but Samsung Dex [1] actually works quite well and using something like UserLAnd [2] you can have a full Linux environment (without root). I'm still experimenting a bit with the latter, but seeing…

I've been considering this.

One small question: how is the front facing camera? One of my necessary uses for a tablet would be video conferencing because the camera on my ThinkPad is not so good.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by yakkers »

smasher164 wrote: post #46

To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts. Take Excel for…

The software experience is the one thing I wish Apple would improve upon faster. It's got quite good as of late, but there's still a lot of things that could be way better all around.

I can certainly agree that Excel on iPad is an awful experience, though. I gave up using my iPad for Excel stuff at work in short order.

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