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I know is a massive overkill, but how is the experience of reading books (pdfs)on the iPad Pro ? (Reading books on a laptop is a pain and phones are too small)

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My read: Apple has a disconnect between their product refreshes and the internal development on their M1 SoCs. They knew they weren't going to tackle Thunderbolt for the first gen of the M1 macbooks, but now the internal development has caught up enough and they're in a position where they have to refresh the iPad. So, of course, they put the new SoC into the refresh. Is thunderbolt relevant to the iPad? Their video…

The first gen M1 devices have thunderbolt.

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> Today, Apple is carbon neutral for global corporate operations, and by 2030, plans to have net zero climate impact across the entire business, which includes manufacturing supply chains and all product life cycles. This means that every Apple device sold, from material collection, component manufacturing, assembly, transport, customer use, charging, all the way through recycling and material recovery, will be 100 p…

Even Apple corp has to buy co2 certificates, the staff need to take flights, and work in non 100% sustainable buildings. What matters though is that Apple is considering the carbon costs of vendors and suppliers. So all thing equal, low carbon emitting vendors will be preferred.

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Touch ID doesn’t work for me, doesn’t recognise my fingers most of the time. Die, Touch ID.

Same here, I was really getting sick of re-training the damn thing every time the seasons changed. Drier air and colder? TouchID drops to maybe 10% success. Humid and warm again? Same. Took a shower or thoroughly washed your hands in the last 30 minutes? Or were swimming recently? TouchID doesn't work at all. Warmed your hands in front of a heater for a minute? TouchID's dead for a while. Ugh. Masks are a problem wit…

That's quite strange. My understanding was that most fingerprint readers were constantly updating their image of the fingerprint. For example shortly after enrolling my finger or after doing some manual work that made my hands feel raw it was noticeably less accurate to recognized my finger on the Pixel 4a. However I could quickly lock+unlock my phone with different areas of my finger and then it worked reliably.

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No moment of silence needed. I have a iPad Pro 12.9 and its awesome for consuming content and drawing. For everything else there is a real computer. I can't use the iPad to program my Drone, or Run a CNC, or Play steam games, or link to the Oculus, or run VS Code, or use Fusion 360, or Run Linux or Windows VM's. Or, or... or ... I love my iPad, but it is very, very far from a good computer interface right now.

> program my Drone, or Run a CNC, or Play steam games, or link to the Oculus, or run VS Code, or use Fusion 360, or Run Linux or Windows VM's But you don't have to use (and pay extra for) a Surface for that. I'm not saying the iPad is a computer. I'm saying that iPad is a touch+ink device superior to the Surface (most models of which are kinda mediocre computers IMO).

You are right that I don't need a surface to perform general computing tasks. All I am saying is that, I could do those things with a Surface. I can not do those things with an iPad. The Surface line is is DEAD once you can run a desktop OS on an iPad. Heck, I would go so far to say that would be a redefining moment for computing in general.

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To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts. Take Excel for…

For me the overall experience just doesn't work as a productivity device. The gestures to multitask are too complex. Every edge and corner has a different meaning, and swiping does several different things depending on direction.

It's not natural to have your monitor and keyboard super close together, and to have your monitor sitting directly on a desk.

It's not comfortable to poke a semi-vertical touchscreen over a long period of time where you have to support your whole arm while also making precise movements with your fingers.

Fingers are not precise enough to interact with basic elements like text fields and buttons.

I'm sitting here at my desk with its large monitor on an arm, mechanical keyboard and precision mouse and appreciating the years of thought that went into making this setup work. I think there is a possibility of something better with an iPad like device, but Apple would need to be far more ambitious than they've been so far.

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Missed opportunity in today's announcement to introduce arguably the most compelling part of M1 adoption: a desktop-like experience, especially since hardware keyboard and trackpad already exist. If it runs M1, I wanna run my Electron VS Code on it.

Why tho ? Everything about the system is locked down - it's never going to be a good development machine no matter if you run electron vscode or not. It could be a decent client for stuff like web vscode.

I don't think a machine's fitness for development is correlated to how locked down it is—you can totally have a very controlled environment with gatekeeping like the current iPadOS but have well-designed tools and development environments built for it. Apple did it with macOS after all...

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And... no Touch ID (unlike the iPad Air) [1][2]. I recently bought the iPad Air after having the iPad Pro and hating Face ID on it. It's bad enough that I have Face ID on my iPhone. I hate it so much. Face ID is such a terrible UX that has caused me to enter my passcode to unlock more times a day than I care to count. Even if you ignore the fact that they don't work with masks, it's still a bad idea. The false negati…

That is strange. I don’t remember FaceID failing for me without a mask on. Do you have any ideas on why it doesn’t work for you? FaceID is frictionless now. At first I missed not having to look at the phone to unlock it, but when compared to using our iPad with touchID it’s much easier.

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surfing the web whilst on the couch -- consuming media checking in on my RSS feeds -- consuming media casual gaming -- consuming media watching movies -- consuming media reading PDF & Kindle e-books -- consuming media handwritten & typed notes for work & study -- light typing replying emails -- light typing portable RDP, VNC & SSH client on the go -- not sure This is what the OP was complaining about. It's fine for c…

Programming, video editing, graphics design, writing papers, etc... For these applications the iPad Pro has been a disappointment Apart from maybe graphics design, I don't believe the iPad Pro was ever advertised to do those things (if I'm not mistaken), so I can imagine your disappointment if you expected to do those things on it.

If you read the press release, Apple VERY heavily emphasizes "creative workflows"

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I know is a massive overkill, but how is the experience of reading books (pdfs)on the iPad Pro ? (Reading books on a laptop is a pain and phones are too small)

I read programming books side-by-side with Blink ssh'd into a remote server. I find the experience pleasant. For other reading, it depends. I do a lot of gaming and so I have a lot of PDFs, two-page view or split view of different materials is very nice since I can read them without needing to zoom in. OTOH, if I'm just trying to read fiction or something then a smaller tablet (Kindle Fire, in my case, that I bought to replace a defunct iPad a few years ago since I just wanted a reading device) works better for me. I knew it was a stretch, but I was really hoping for an upgraded iPad Mini.
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