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Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by whimsicalism »

intergalplan wrote: post #120
f6v wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm still skeptical that Apple wants it to be a general-purpose computer.

Personally, if they make it a general-purpose computer, I'll be eagerly waiting for them or someone else to create the next iPad. It's already gone too far that way, IMO—I like it as a slab of smart glass that can become, entirely, a whole bunch of different, separate, specific tools, not as yet another complex, generic, multi-tasking computer. In that respect, it's mostly been going downhill since iOS 6, IMO, as far…

Why can't it let you just choose which experience you want?

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Post by pkulak »

boardwaalk wrote: post #140
smasher164 wrote: post #46

To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts. Take Excel for…

Yeah, I saw this announcement and was thinking, “Why do I need more power?” coming from a 2018 iPad Pro. All this power is cool , but, the design of iPadOS is just not conducive to me wanting to get anything done on it. I know that’s ambiguous and hand wavey. Part of it is certainly the multitasking. Part of it is the keyboard. Part of it is no local Unix or build tools or good code editor. Yeah, I can SSH into anoth…

Even the hardware isn't ideal for MacOS though. I don't want top-heavy laptops with all the hardware behind the screen. I want an actual laptop... like the MacBook.

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Post by rvz »

ttul wrote: post #88
WORMS_EAT_WORMS wrote: post #25

If you have been passively reading about M1 and haven’t had the chance to upgrade your Air or MBP, just know it’s the real deal. I have never been happier with a laptop than this first generation M1 MBP. A little wild to think in — poof! — a single year we have gone to the Air, Mac Book Pro, iPad, and iMac sharing the SAME chip! Amazing, can’t wait for the new iPhone...

This was indeed one of Apple's best moves ever. I've been happily using the M1 MacBook Air. So long as you steer clear of heavy apps that aren't M1-optimized, the battery life is insane and the device seems to make use of the high performance cores, which really scream. I am confident that the iMac will take advantage of that huge wedge of metal to dissipate heat even better than the laptops do. That will allow it to…

From the grandparent comment:

> I have never been happier with a laptop than this first generation M1 MBP.

I always skip the first generation of any Apple product. The M1 adoption cycle was infested with hype and was somewhat a hacky process, especially for the developer software ecosystem, and it is still immature, un-optimised and still not ready. You still can't even use two monitors on the M1 Macbook Air simultaneously which I can already do on my older Macbook.

The M2 / M3 enabled Mac would be a more worthy upgrade, depending whether or not if they have addressed these issues rather than getting last years model.

From the parent comment:

> I'm a total fanatic. I'll be dumping all my money into this new gear on April 30th.

I hope this is a joke right? Since I would rather dump that money on some cryptocurrency on April 30th, than dump it all on another beautiful expensive downgrade. At least wait until WWDC.

To Downvoters: Given one already has a Macbook, I am in no rush to purchase either last years model or to purchase another shiny new one; especially if it is a first gen M1.

The fanatics will say the same thing in WWDC and in September when they realise their 1st gen transition technology is already replaced. By then the software ecosystem for M1 is hopefully optimised and somewhat stabilised. Plenty of time to wait.

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Post by reader_mode »

smasher164 wrote: post #46

To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts. Take Excel for…

I can think of one use case where it could be nice - content creators.

For example I like to noodle on guitar and frankly guitar interface + iPad > laptop.

Likewise for video editing, photo touchups, etc.

I can see iPad for creatives using more processing power

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Post by aosaigh »

aosaigh wrote: post #91
speedgoose wrote: post #19

I wish the iPad pro was not such a locked down operating system. I just want to run a web browser that is not safari, and visual studio code.

You can run Chrome and Firefox on an iPad.

Understood, didn't realise they were all the same

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Post by dade_ »

The iPad Pro has Thunderbolt before the Microsoft Surface. So tired of MS dragging their feet, kicking and screaming on TB.

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Post by smoldesu »

jack_riminton wrote: post #164
monkmartinez wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a great tablet experience! They could have a dual boot option where you get a MacOS for real work. Otherwise you are right, don't try to make real work happen in the current form. SO MUCH FRICTION to copy and move a file around for example. The bulk of my use is strictly tablet stuff and I think it is really great at that.

Exactly. The OP complaining that it’s cumbersome to use Excel, well yeah, but the things tablets are designed for; dragging, drawing, tapping etc. It excels at (pun intended)

Sure, but I think the overall sentiment is that Apple hasn't really pushed the iPad any further as an input device. It still does those drawing, dragging and tapping things well, but why haven't they pushed those gestures to work with context menus or have some unified purpose? In some ways, the iPad is still the bare minimum of being a tablet, but it's mastered that concept. As Apple continues to market it as a "computer" though, they have a responsibility to improve the computer aspects of it: file management, improved user control, and developer solutions are all weak or missing links in the chain here. Sure it does tablet well, but it sucks at computer.

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Post by jordanab »

mulmen wrote: post #124
jordanab wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I own a 2018 iPad Pro, and it's possibly the best & most versatile device I've ever owned. Among the things I use it for are: surfing the web whilst on the couch, checking in on my RSS feeds, casual gaming, watching movies, reading PDF & Kindle e-books, handwritten & typed notes for work & study, replying emails, portable RDP, VNC & SSH client on the go. And I'm probably still forgetting a lot of things...

Yeah I just use a combination of my Mac and iPhone to do all that. The iPad is an awkward middle spot for me. Different strokes.

Fair enough. I had the same feeling with older tablets that I owned (early iPad's and Samsung Android tablets), but the iPad Pro did hit a sweet spot for me.

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Post by jug »

DIVx0 wrote: post #54

This so easily could be my primary computing device. I've been an iPad user since the first gen and its my goto for anything that isn't work related and that's only because I can't easily write software on it. I understand there are more people interested in the use cases apple illustrated in their presentation than software developers who just want to run docker on their ipads so I wont hold my breath. But I'd love…

Yes, I think iPadOS is lagging behind the hardware. Hopefully WWDC will show us something that tells they “get it” this year, rather then spending time on widgets and app management.

What I personally want is smoother peripheral support, like working directly on external hard drives and NAS storage both for coding and photo library management. No transfers, no syncing, just working on it.

The Files app doesn’t feel right, it still feels like a hamstrung file management island in the OS.

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Post by reader_mode »

gmaster1440 wrote: post #41
Spartan-S63 wrote: post #13

It'll be interesting to see if iPadOS 15 steps us any closer to laptop/desktop class usage. The biggest thing holding back iPad from being a real laptop replacement for so many is the software. It's also not as simple as porting macOS to iPad. I get Apple's hesitancy from a usability and a product cannibalization standpoint, but it's time they step things forward.

Missed opportunity in today's announcement to introduce arguably the most compelling part of M1 adoption: a desktop-like experience, especially since hardware keyboard and trackpad already exist. If it runs M1, I wanna run my Electron VS Code on it.

Why tho ? Everything about the system is locked down - it's never going to be a good development machine no matter if you run electron vscode or not.

It could be a decent client for stuff like web vscode.

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