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Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by varispeed »

nojito wrote: post #82
varispeed wrote: post #76

> Committed to the Environment That section is just nasty and dishonest. It perpetuates an image of Apple as a company caring for environment, which isn't exactly true. They should at least be honest that their devices are artificially hard to repair, so that they can squeeze more money out of the consumer. If someone does not have money to pay Apple to repair the device, where it lands?

Right to repair has nothing to do with the environment. Additionally Apple supports their devices far longer than any other company.

How so? Inability to extend the life of the device is environment neutral?

Does Apple make parts available for their products? If you want to replace the charging chip, can you get it from Apple? Or do you need to take a bus, train, a car to go to Apple store, to have them then ship the entire device god knows where, to replace whole motherboard and then ship it back? How is that has nothing to do with environment?

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Post by gpm »

vetinari wrote: post #94
volta83 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The macbook air screen is ok, its webcam is horrible, it doesn't have a touch screen, so you can't use it as a "digital blackboard" for remote work, and it can't use multiple monitors. The iPad has a great front camera, great screen, great touch screen and Apple Pen, yet is software-handicapped to prevent professional use. I guess Apples' goal is for people to buy both, but I've been on the market for a new "work dev…

> Also the macbook air can only drive 1 external monitor. That's the limitation of the GPU in the current-gen M1. It has two display encoders, one of them is connected to eDP for the internal display - except for the M1, which doesn't have an internal display, so it can be wired to external connector. So unless they redid this part, this iPad and the new iMac will have the same limitation.

Hmm, for the laptop I'd be happy if I could turn off the built in display to get a second external display. That would literally be a big enough change that I would have already bought one instead of not having done so.

I guess I'd be happy with an ipad-m1-computer if

- It could run desktop software.

- It could do that.

Unfortunately, having a feature that requires turning off the built in display doesn't seem like Apple's style.

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Post by denysvitali »

I don't like Apple at all, but I have to admit that HW-wise this iPad really looks interesting.

Now, please Apple, keep the bootloader unlocked (or unlockable), let us install Asahi Linux (or any other distro, really) and I'll buy this thing.

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Post by mulmen »

volta83 wrote: post #106
mulmen wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the last year of remote work I have not missed whiteboard collaboration at all. My team just got better at writing docs and generating diagrams with dedicated tooling.

I use it every day. A 10 second drawings saves me 5 minutes of talking every time. Colleagues that don't have this capability at home give the impression that they are wasting everbody elses time, to the point that they draw on a piece of paper and hang it infront of the camera instead. Also, this pretty much completely disqualifies them for doing things like, e.g., "interviews", which restricts their career developm…

Yeah we just have a totally different workflow where you provide a doc and that has all the material already included. There’s no adhoc sketching stuff because we think that through before taking anyone’s time.

It’s just a different way of working. But it pays dividends when you have people spread across time zones. Plus none of it is throw-away work. The docs are there for anyone to reference any time in the future.

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Post by jordanab »

mulmen wrote: post #68
Spartan-S63 wrote: post #13

It'll be interesting to see if iPadOS 15 steps us any closer to laptop/desktop class usage. The biggest thing holding back iPad from being a real laptop replacement for so many is the software. It's also not as simple as porting macOS to iPad. I get Apple's hesitancy from a usability and a product cannibalization standpoint, but it's time they step things forward.

I have zero interest in using a worse laptop. Touch screens are an anti-feature. For decades we have tried as an industry to do touch interfaces on “real” computers and it’s always horrible because it’s not actually a thing worth doing. With M1 Macs being a thing I have no idea what benefits an iPad offers.

I own a 2018 iPad Pro, and it's possibly the best & most versatile device I've ever owned. Among the things I use it for are: surfing the web whilst on the couch, checking in on my RSS feeds, casual gaming, watching movies, reading PDF & Kindle e-books, handwritten & typed notes for work & study, replying emails, portable RDP, VNC & SSH client on the go. And I'm probably still forgetting a lot of things...

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Post by f6v »

speedgoose wrote: post #19

I wish the iPad pro was not such a locked down operating system. I just want to run a web browser that is not safari, and visual studio code.

At that point, what's the difference to MBA? iPad will always be subpar in my eyes due to poor lappability in "laptop" mode. And I realised I don't want my work screen to be covered in fingerprints.

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Post by mseidl »

Tycho wrote: post #96

Thinking of buying one and propping it up on my piano and using it for music writing and music tuition apps. Anyone tried anything like this?

I'm in a band and want to get one to use for for sheet music.

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Post by roody15 »

f6v wrote: post #108
smasher164 wrote: post #46

To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts. Take Excel for…

I'm still skeptical that Apple wants it to be a general-purpose computer.

It doesn’t. It is more a consumer console than personal computer IMO

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Post by intergalplan »

f6v wrote: post #108
smasher164 wrote: post #46

To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts. Take Excel for…

I'm still skeptical that Apple wants it to be a general-purpose computer.

Personally, if they make it a general-purpose computer, I'll be eagerly waiting for them or someone else to create the next iPad. It's already gone too far that way, IMO—I like it as a slab of smart glass that can become, entirely, a whole bunch of different, separate, specific tools, not as yet another complex, generic, multi-tasking computer. In that respect, it's mostly been going downhill since iOS 6, IMO, as far as the OS interface and behavior.
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