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Post by rudedogg »

twobitshifter wrote: post #169
christiansakai wrote: post #133

For this Mother's Day I am thinking of getting my old mother either an iPad Pro (M1) or Macbook Air (M1). Emphasized on "old" because she is technically quite illiterate. She does use iPhone though. I wonder what will be the better gift for her? Is iPad quite foolproof? I am thinking of getting the magic keyboard as well and the mouse in case she needs a mouse. Her workflow most likely just browsing, email, FaceTime,…

There’s the iPad mini or Air as well. None of those use cases requires the performance of the iPad Pro. It’s easy to use and just like a big iPhone if that’s what you want to do.

Yeah, I'd go for something smaller like an iPad mini, or regular iPad. The iPad Pros are big.

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Post by pjmlp »

filleduchaos wrote: post #246
foldr wrote: post #233

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Video and photo editing are common iPad Pro use cases where performance matters.

Haven't you heard? Programming is the only "pro" or performance-intensive thing that exists. I don't even understand why programmers are always so up in arms about devices like the iPad. Why on earth does one want to program on a handheld touchscreen device anyway? I have zero expectations for that, much like I have zero expectations for the laptop I do program on to be a good drawing device.

Don't forget only UNIX guys are programmers, the rest of us using XCode and similar tooling are just muggles.

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Post by _ph_ »

KabirKwatra wrote: post #296
_ph_ wrote: post #134

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If it were possible to run Linux on the iPad Pro, I would upgrade in a heartbeat to a high-end configuration.

https://getutm.app

Impressive, but unfortunately not in the AppStore :(

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Post by samatman »

smasher164 wrote: post #46

To me, it doesn't matter how powerful the iPad is if the software experience is subpar. Multitasking is cumbrous enough that it might as well not exist, multi-display setups can only mirror at a fixed aspect ratio, it lacks multiple user profiles requiring a family to be under a single user, and the few apps that take advantage of the keyboard/trackpad are nowhere similar to their desktop counterparts. Take Excel for…

Things I do on an iPad, ranked by how unlikely I am to do them on another computer:

- Draw. This is the big one. I'm no fine artist, but I do a bit of calligraphy now and then, and Procreate is amazing.

- Make memes. It might not be more "productive" to caption funny pictures on my iPad than it would be to do it on desktop, but it's more fun. It feels more natural to manipulate images on a tablet.

- Read PDFs. the 12.9" iPad is carefully sized to make US letter and A4 documents readable. I'll load a PDF up in one of the zones of my wide monitor if I'm using it as a reference for a slide deck or whatever, but if I'm just reading it, it's the iPad for me.

- Edit video. I doubt I would stick with this work flow if I were a dedicated content creator. But I'm not, and stitching some footage off my mirrorless camera together, putting a soundtrack to it: the iPad makes this pleasant.

- Look at photos. Also, showing them to other people. A couple weeks ago I took my iPad with me to the mechanic to show some pictures I had taken of my front bumper, lamentably separated from the rest of the vehicle in a fender bender. A phone might have sufficed, but a tablet is obviously better and I have one. When I'm in the mood to scroll through my memories, the iPad is the place to do it.

- Twitter. This is the inflection point! I had a phase of taking my Twitter time on the tablet, and went back to using my laptop. Scrolling with a flick of the pencil is nice, but inputting text is very much not its strong suit, and there are ads. I don't like ads.

Edited to add: I'm heavy on the gizmos. If I had to ditch one, it would be the iPad, and I have no interest in upgrading my 3rd gen whatsoever. But I'm glad I don't have to ditch it! For what it's good for, it really shines. I'm fond of it.

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Post by pjmlp »

reader_mode wrote: post #200
gmaster1440 wrote: post #41

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Missed opportunity in today's announcement to introduce arguably the most compelling part of M1 adoption: a desktop-like experience, especially since hardware keyboard and trackpad already exist. If it runs M1, I wanna run my Electron VS Code on it.

Why tho ? Everything about the system is locked down - it's never going to be a good development machine no matter if you run electron vscode or not. It could be a decent client for stuff like web vscode.

I don't remember to ever look into the AmigaOS source code.

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Post by erickhill »

drewzero1 wrote: post #270
valesco wrote: post #249

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It’s been at least 13 years that the meaning has changed. Since the introduction of the 13 inch MacBook Pro.

While I do feel they should've continued the plain old "MacBook" designation for the 13" beyond 2008, I've got to admit the 2009-2012 13" MBP was a solid workhorse for a moderately professional user. In my experience with that whole line I really feel like only the 17" truly deserved the "pro" moniker since it got better options (processors, matte display) than the others.

My 2015 MBPs (I have 2) rock. Ports galore, too. Hence why I've never upgraded.

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Post by clairity »

robocat wrote: post #289
clairity wrote: post #148

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> "...gesture-like latencies in between to get it to work." i hate that animations on ios are i/o blocking. every single time i have to enter my passcode, it misses at least one if not two of my keypresses, which means i have to erase the whole thing and do it more slowly since the missing keypresses are essentially random (not just the final one or two). another related annoyance is alert popups that occur more than…

Are you sure it isn't that you are sliding your finger enough for iOS to think you are doing a "scroll gesture" instead of a click? I hate iOS because the movement limit before a tap gets cancelled is too small for my tastes - simulating "virtual" clicks at 10px limit of motion worked better for my tastes using a browser. Maybe I am just lazy, maybe the capacitance or shape of my fingers is the problem, or maybe I ha…

yah that also happens to me sometimes too (and it's maddening), but that's definitely not it here. in these cases, the ui isn't responsive because of the animations.

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Post by samatman »

dangwu wrote: post #18
Austin_Conlon wrote: post #6

What kinds of iPadOS workflows benefit from this most? The device never seemed lacking in performance.

I agree. Are there really that many people using iPads for high performance video/audio editing? Everyone I know uses their iPad as a video player or recipe displayer.

Probably doesn't qualify as "high performance", I've done video editing which stitches together a few 4K video sources. Gen 3 handles it without any stutter, lag, or heat.

I see no compelling reason to upgrade, but also, I didn't expect to. This just means that people who get an iPad Pro will now get a nicer one. Good for them.

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Post by peraspera »

mabedan wrote: post #284
peraspera wrote: post #280

Here are two anecdotes to explain why I'll never buy an Apple computer again, as 'sexy' as they are: 1. My brother has a old iPad (3rd generation). Somehow its battery is still good enough and the screen is in great shape, but the OS hasn't been updated in years. IIRC, Chrome is stuck on version 60 something. I could jailbreak it, but apparently I'd need a Mac to do that. 2. A friend of mine sold me an iMac 2010 for…

3rd gen iPad was from 9 years ago... show me a 9 year old phone or tablet for any other manufacturer which still gets updated

Not my point at all, though still pretty appalling.

It's quite trivial to install LineageOS, for instance, on an old Android phone. Apple completely blocks this route. If your iDevice is no longer supported, it becomes a shiny, expensive paperweight.

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