iPad Pro M1 • Hacker News Board

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by specialist » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 8:01 PM UTC

christiansakai wrote: post #133

For this Mother's Day I am thinking of getting my old mother either an iPad Pro (M1) or Macbook Air (M1). Emphasized on "old" because she is technically quite illiterate. She does use iPhone though. I wonder what will be the better gift for her? Is iPad quite foolproof? I am thinking of getting the magic keyboard as well and the mouse in case she needs a mouse. Her workflow most likely just browsing, email, FaceTime,…

YMMV. My formerly technically competent mother can no longer learn new skills. We've tried for years to teach her how to text, initiate FaceTime, play Word with Friends, etc.

My advice to future eldercare providers is to pick a tech stack, lock down those skills, and then stick to it.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by saagarjha » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 8:03 PM UTC

kunjanshah wrote: post #165

boardwaalk wrote: post #140

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Yeah, I saw this announcement and was thinking, “Why do I need more power?” coming from a 2018 iPad Pro. All this power is cool , but, the design of iPadOS is just not conducive to me wanting to get anything done on it. I know that’s ambiguous and hand wavey. Part of it is certainly the multitasking. Part of it is the keyboard. Part of it is no local Unix or build tools or good code editor. Yeah, I can SSH into anoth…

Dual boot is not even needed M1 can virtualize, you could run both side by side. Previous iPad Pros could virtualize too, it was disabled in hardware.

This is the first iPad Pro with hardware virtualization support.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by deergomoo » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 8:04 PM UTC

The iPad now has hardware virtualisation support. Indicative of big changes to iPadOS coming at WWWDC in June, or just a case of it being cheaper to only manufacture M1 vs both M1 and something like an A14X?

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by enos_feedler » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 8:06 PM UTC

jshen wrote: post #232

enos_feedler wrote: post #219

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Productivity takes many shapes and forms. The use cases highlighted in the video were about capturing video podcasts, rendering previews in the field, etc. you can be productive without fitting into the traditional mold of productive computing. Thats what ipad is after.

ipad's limitations are arbitrary and have no strong reason to exist. I've been an apple fan for years, and bought my first PC in nearly 20 years recently because I shouldn't have to buy two very expensive apple devices (a mac, and an ipad) to cover all of my use cases.

If ipad’s limitations were arbitrary they wouldn’t exist. The product design is shaped by the use cases it optimizes for. This is no different than saying a GPU has arbitrary limitations for running general C++ code. In some sense yes, you could make a single thread c++ compiler target the GPU, but 1) it wouldnt fit the design well and 2) changing the design to make it work well would mess up the original intended use case.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by saagarjha » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 8:08 PM UTC

unfamiliar wrote: post #144

crazygringo wrote: post #60

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Seriously. The thing that still bites me the most is that "Share" functionality of files continues to be broken in certain apps. For example, I frequently need to save a PDF from my Google Drive app either to my local Files or the Books app. But both those options are just... missing from the iOS share sheet, even though Acrobat is there. So I have to share to Acrobat, then share to Files or Books from within Acrobat…

Unfortunately the terrible file management seems to be spreading to MacOS, rather than vice versa. Now if you have iCloud Drive turned on and navigate to ~/Documents in Finder, if you go up one level you'll find yourself in some kind of virtual folder called iCloud Drive, rather than your home directory. This is exactly the sort of weird filesystem-tree-concept-breaking thing that made Windows Explorer so annoying to…

You mean "if you have your Desktop and Documents folder synced to iCloud".

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by sz4kerto » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 8:08 PM UTC

reader_mode wrote: post #200

gmaster1440 wrote: post #41

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Missed opportunity in today's announcement to introduce arguably the most compelling part of M1 adoption: a desktop-like experience, especially since hardware keyboard and trackpad already exist. If it runs M1, I wanna run my Electron VS Code on it.

Why tho ? Everything about the system is locked down - it's never going to be a good development machine no matter if you run electron vscode or not. It could be a decent client for stuff like web vscode.

VSCode Remote SSH would solve practically all my dev problems. I don't need anything else. :)

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by Joeri » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 8:09 PM UTC

manigandham wrote: post #234

clairity wrote: post #148

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> "...gesture-like latencies in between to get it to work." i hate that animations on ios are i/o blocking. every single time i have to enter my passcode, it misses at least one if not two of my keypresses, which means i have to erase the whole thing and do it more slowly since the missing keypresses are essentially random (not just the final one or two). another related annoyance is alert popups that occur more than…

Yes, this is why the default iPhone calculator app is completely useless. These forced animations make tasks take the same amount of time regardless of how fast the hardware gets. I would love to be able to turn off all animations in iphone/ipad UIs.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the problem being described, but I just tried this and it is impossible for me to type so fast in the iphone calculator app that it misses inputs. The animation completes in the background but does not block anything.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by saagarjha » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 8:09 PM UTC

sirn wrote: post #89

Spartan-S63 wrote: post #13

It'll be interesting to see if iPadOS 15 steps us any closer to laptop/desktop class usage. The biggest thing holding back iPad from being a real laptop replacement for so many is the software. It's also not as simple as porting macOS to iPad. I get Apple's hesitancy from a usability and a product cannibalization standpoint, but it's time they step things forward.

Just a wishful thinking, but since this is an M1 and not the A14X (and 8c+8c+8/16GB setup used in MacBook Pro even), I'm hoping that Hypervisor.framework will come to an iPadOS in the next WWDC. Having something like macOS.app, or even Ubuntu.app within iPad Pro would make it a pretty amazing convertible (for me).

M1 is essentially an A14X.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by ilyas121 » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 8:10 PM UTC

If it could just port current CAD software, I would buy it in a heart beat. I don't want to have to learn new CAD software like Shapr.

Re: iPad Pro M1

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Post by drewzero1 » Tue, Apr 20, 2021, 8:12 PM UTC

valesco wrote: post #249

pkulak wrote: post #184

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"Pro" used to mean "professional" for Apple. Now it just means "expensive".

It’s been at least 13 years that the meaning has changed. Since the introduction of the 13 inch MacBook Pro.

While I do feel they should've continued the plain old "MacBook" designation for the 13" beyond 2008, I've got to admit the 2009-2012 13" MBP was a solid workhorse for a moderately professional user.

In my experience with that whole line I really feel like only the 17" truly deserved the "pro" moniker since it got better options (processors, matte display) than the others.