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Post by reader_mode »

gmaster1440 wrote: post #207
reader_mode wrote: post #200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why tho ? Everything about the system is locked down - it's never going to be a good development machine no matter if you run electron vscode or not. It could be a decent client for stuff like web vscode.

I don't think a machine's fitness for development is correlated to how locked down it is—you can totally have a very controlled environment with gatekeeping like the current iPadOS but have well-designed tools and development environments built for it. Apple did it with macOS after all...

I think we don't have the same definition of locked down. I can download Linux compatible tools to my Mac and run server compatible software locally. I can install custom browsers, development environments, etc. This just isn't compatible with iOS app model.

The only way I see this happening is if they let you run docker images/VMs. Even then it would suck for front-end. And it's such a niche use case from their perspective - I don't see this happening ever.

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Post by f6v »

tyingq wrote: post #130
f6v wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm still skeptical that Apple wants it to be a general-purpose computer.

I don't know that it would have to be a full general-purpose computer. For the most part, if they found a way for Xcode to run on an iPad, I feel like MacOS would be (eventually, slowly) doomed.

iPad is a "computer" for people who just browse internet, watch YouTube and play games. Bringing the whole macOS experience to iPad would be a distracting endeavour IMO. Yeah, it'd be dope for some people, but the number of those people is overestimated.

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Post by nickysielicki »

Synaesthesia wrote: post #202
nickysielicki wrote: post #182

My read: Apple has a disconnect between their product refreshes and the internal development on their M1 SoCs. They knew they weren't going to tackle Thunderbolt for the first gen of the M1 macbooks, but now the internal development has caught up enough and they're in a position where they have to refresh the iPad. So, of course, they put the new SoC into the refresh. Is thunderbolt relevant to the iPad? Their video…

The first gen M1 devices have thunderbolt.

Thanks for correcting me on this. You're right, they have TB3 (and just not TB4). I was confused and thought they just had USB-C.

My read above is just wrong.

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Post by fareesh »

Toutouxc wrote: post #35

A moment of silence for the guys working on the MS Surface devices. There are still reasons to get the Surface instead of an iPad, but the M1 in an iPad sounds like a hit.

When you can play DOTA2 on an iPad I'll be impressed

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Post by f6v »

whimsicalism wrote: post #191
intergalplan wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, if they make it a general-purpose computer, I'll be eagerly waiting for them or someone else to create the next iPad. It's already gone too far that way, IMO—I like it as a slab of smart glass that can become, entirely, a whole bunch of different, separate, specific tools, not as yet another complex, generic, multi-tasking computer. In that respect, it's mostly been going downhill since iOS 6, IMO, as far…

Why can't it let you just choose which experience you want?

We tried to build a universal app for two sides of a job board once. The app offered different workflows depending on whether you're a job seeker or a recruiter. Man, managing that UX- and code-wise was a pain the ass. Imagine doing that for the whole OS.

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Post by markstos »

twobitshifter wrote: post #156
DCKing wrote: post #73

The M1 has the necessary hardware to run virtualization. Apple could decide to allow VMWare or Parallels to bring desktop virtualization software to the iPad. You could have an all-in-one device for casual use, note taking, art and media consumption that turns into a capable Linux desktop at will. There's even 16GB RAM options available to make that reasonably comfortable, as well as a port to connect to a dock. But…

Is there a performance penalty with virtualization on the M1?

Based on what I've read about the Mac M1, it's hard to notice.

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Post by PragmaticPulp »

WORMS_EAT_WORMS wrote: post #25

If you have been passively reading about M1 and haven’t had the chance to upgrade your Air or MBP, just know it’s the real deal. I have never been happier with a laptop than this first generation M1 MBP. A little wild to think in — poof! — a single year we have gone to the Air, Mac Book Pro, iPad, and iMac sharing the SAME chip! Amazing, can’t wait for the new iPhone...

The M1 feels like magic in this power/thermal envelope.

It’s almost as fast as a top of the line desktop CPU in many tasks, but it accomplishes this in the envelope of a power efficient laptop.

I’m looking forward to seeing what they can do with the larger MacBook Pro models.

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Post by vlozko »

dangwu wrote: post #18
Austin_Conlon wrote: post #6

What kinds of iPadOS workflows benefit from this most? The device never seemed lacking in performance.

I agree. Are there really that many people using iPads for high performance video/audio editing? Everyone I know uses their iPad as a video player or recipe displayer.

Isn't that where the regular iPad and iPad Air come in? I know a couple of graphic designers that could get by with the regular, consumer iPads but the Pro is far more ideal for them.

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Post by Method-X »

Spartan-S63 wrote: post #13

It'll be interesting to see if iPadOS 15 steps us any closer to laptop/desktop class usage. The biggest thing holding back iPad from being a real laptop replacement for so many is the software. It's also not as simple as porting macOS to iPad. I get Apple's hesitancy from a usability and a product cannibalization standpoint, but it's time they step things forward.

I think they should include macOS in new iPads as a dual boot option and allow users to connect the iPad to a monitor. This is what I do with my MacBook Air and I'm sure many, many iPad users would find this tremendously useful. Ditto for iPhone.

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Post by evertheylen »

Lots of people in here talking about trying to use to a tablet for productivity, but finding iPad OS a bit lacking. I'd cautiously suggest you check out the Samsung Tab S7(+).

It is likely considered a worse tablet by many, but Samsung Dex [1] actually works quite well and using something like UserLAnd [2] you can have a full Linux environment (without root). I'm still experimenting a bit with the latter, but seeing that Android is still Linux under the hood I'm expecting it to work out in the end. I plan to run code-server [3] on it which would provide a full IDE.

[1]: https://www.samsung.com/us/explore/dex/

[2]: https://github.com/CypherpunkArmory/UserLAnd

[3]: https://github.com/cdr/code-server

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