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The “Granny Knot”

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Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by js2 »

dragonwriter wrote: post #202
js2 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "Ian Knot" pairs well with the Japanese T-shirt folding technique: https://youtu.be/dNr1oLhZ0zs Also, tie wearers, take the time to learn a Full Windsor: https://youtu.be/HXJx8j7JpKY

> Also, tie wearers, take the time to learn a Full Windsor I mean, if you are into attempts to simulate the look of a four-in-hand knot used on a wider piece of material as popularized by a particular celebrity Nazi sympathizer, sure. Unless you are particularly tall, in which case finding ties long enough to wear with a full windsor is enough trouble that you might as well find something wide enough to achieve the e…

The Windsor looks nothing like the four-in-hand. It's a symmetric, full knot. The four-in-hand is asymmetric and skinny. I happen to think the Windsor is the best looking knot here:

https://www.ties.com/how-to-tie-a-tie/windsor

(Scroll down to Explore More Knots.)

I've been using it since I was 13. My father taught it to me. His father taught it to him. I've taught it to my son.

I haven't tied the the Pratt knot before, but it looks like it's a nice nearly symmetrical knot that doesn't use up much of the tie.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by js2 »

globular-toast wrote: post #195
js2 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "Ian Knot" pairs well with the Japanese T-shirt folding technique: https://youtu.be/dNr1oLhZ0zs Also, tie wearers, take the time to learn a Full Windsor: https://youtu.be/HXJx8j7JpKY

Half Windsor is still more in fashion and still produces a neat, symmetrical knot. Beware, though, after learning a good knot you will see the four in hand knot everywhere and it will annoy you.

I've been using the Full Windsor since my dad taught it to me when I was 13. I'm not much one for fashion, but I think it's a timeless knot. Apparently James Bond didn't think much of it though. :-)

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by L_226 »

Am I the only one who does double granny knots? Been doing so since I first learned to tie my shoes, never ever had a shoe come untied. Sure it takes an additional .5s to tie, and perhaps an additional 3s to untie, but why risk it?

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by inanutshellus »

sjwright wrote: post #153
leephillips wrote: post #82

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Now what about folding fitted sheets? That’s guru-level.

I never understood the need to fold bed sheets. Crinkled sheets simply aren’t a problem I’ve ever had; you barely notice the difference once they’re stretched over the bed and pillows. I have a blanket box at the end of the bed; I just shove the second set of sheets in straight out of the dryer. (I do fold sheets for the guest bed but that’s because the alternative set might spend months on the shelf. Most of the tim…

You fold them so you can stack them on other folded things. If they're messily folded, the pile falls over as you carry the basket upstairs, or stack other things onto them on your shelves.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

L_226 wrote: post #233

Am I the only one who does double granny knots? Been doing so since I first learned to tie my shoes, never ever had a shoe come untied. Sure it takes an additional .5s to tie, and perhaps an additional 3s to untie, but why risk it?

Because one better knot will do!

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by waynesonfire »

globular-toast wrote: post #222
Someone1234 wrote: post #35

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People are very negative about these kinds of TED talks, but I actually improved my hand drying technique after the TEDx on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FMBSblpcrc That and using the back of my hand/arm to push off the water from my body after a shower keep our towels much dryer and nicer.

It seems amazing that some people have to be taught things like this as an adult. There seem to be certain things that some people will "just know", while others need to be explicitly taught. I needed to explicitly learn how to socialise. Nobody teaches you how to do it, but there are many rules you are expected to know and follow. I think a lot of these things aren't explicitly taught because it allows certain peopl…

i agree... i noticed a similar thing when i've had my 1-1 with leadership. i felt so good after walking out of those meetings but nothing was really done. it was a number of years later, when i discovered a curriculum that is thought to "life coaches" (and i suspect among other people but it's through this venue that i discovered this), that basically teaches you how to listen. it goes beyond just socializing. these folks in leadership applied the same techniques that were taught to life coaches. nobody teaches this either.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by circuit_ »

iandinwoodie wrote: post #6

A few years ago I switched from the "Granny Knot" to the "Ian Knot" [0] in order to (1) eliminate the need for "double knotting" and (2) straighten the bow. Despite the few embarrassing times early in the process where friends observed me struggling to tie my shoes, I can confidently say the switch has been worth it. [0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

I remember coming across this website when I was 11 or 12. I went to school and showed the Ian Knot to my friends. I was like "guys, look how fast I can tie my shoelaces". They were all super impressed. I'm 23 now and this is still how I tie my shoelaces

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by bagacrap »

hrktb wrote: post #217
mikewarot wrote: post #132

If you want a conspiracy theory about it... I believe that power is passed along selectively to children, to help decide who the future elite are.... the "lucky" half are taught how to correctly tie their shoes... the other half end up with granny knots, which then signals to the elite this person is not one of them. I was one of the granny knot population, always having to stop and re-tie my shoes... fortunately I l…

The third half doesn't feel beauty in knots and just buy shoes that don't rely on that. I think it's the same process as button shirts. This is a whole culture and social marker, but ultimately you can live your life without wearing them more than once a year.

Yes, and zipper pants!

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by bagacrap »

UIZealot wrote: post #184
ipqk wrote: post #95

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I just leave my sneakers tied and use a shoe horn. Super fast and doesn't destroy the heel tab.

I do the same, don't even need a shoe horn, and my heel tabs hold up just fine. Seriously, who has time to tie their shoelaces everytime they put on their shoes?

that's why I sleep with my shoes on

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by dragonwriter »

js2 wrote: post #231
dragonwriter wrote: post #202

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> Also, tie wearers, take the time to learn a Full Windsor I mean, if you are into attempts to simulate the look of a four-in-hand knot used on a wider piece of material as popularized by a particular celebrity Nazi sympathizer, sure. Unless you are particularly tall, in which case finding ties long enough to wear with a full windsor is enough trouble that you might as well find something wide enough to achieve the e…

The Windsor looks nothing like the four-in-hand. It's a symmetric, full knot. The four-in-hand is asymmetric and skinny. I happen to think the Windsor is the best looking knot here: https://www.ties.com/how-to-tie-a-tie/windsor (Scroll down to Explore More Knots.) I've been using it since I was 13. My father taught it to me. His father taught it to him. I've taught it to my son. I haven't tied the the Pratt knot befo…

> the Windsor looks nothing like the four-in-hand

The Windsor is an attempt to simulate, with a common tie, the look of a knot the late Duke of Windsor was known to wear, which was, in fact, a four-in-hand tied on a much wider (and, I suspect—though I have seen no documentation on this point—differently shaped) piece of material than common ties.

> I've been using it since I was 13. My father taught it to me. His father taught it to him. I've taught it to my son.

I’m not sure what relevance that has; I learned it about the same age, also from my father (who I suspect didn’t learn it from his father, whose personality, age, and socioeconomic background probably would not have inclined him to jump on that particular newfangled fashion trend.)

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