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The “Granny Knot”

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Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by dkersten »

laurieg wrote: post #180
lwansbrough wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did this too and also momentarily forgot how to tie my shoes! (Forgot the new method, and the old method.) Now I have saved literally minutes of my life on shoe tying.

A few weeks ago I went to play a piece on the piano. I completely blanked, tried to piece together the intro by ear but wasn't really getting anywhere. My teacher played the intro and then boom, the whole thing was back under my fingers. The brain really is fascinating.

This happens to me all the time when playing guitar. I could be there blankly strumming wondering what the notes were, but the moment I get something right, I’ve got it. Or sometimes it’s that I can’t remember the rhythm at all and I try to hum it or anything at all that might help me remember and once I’ve got the first few moments it comes flooding back.

It doesn’t help that I’m relatively new to guitar.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by loonster »

It's all in how you start the knot and how you do the swoop. Learning to do the swoop differently is hard. Much easier to retrain yourself in doing the correct start. I've taught several adults how to tie their shoes.

Instead of doing Left-Over-Right, Do Right-Over-Left (or vice versa if you do your swoop differently than me).

I personally do not like the "Ian Knot". It requires you to take both hands off from the first cross, which results in looser laces.

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For those that want security without struggling to remove a double knot, this is the method I learned in the military:

Tie a simple not at the end of each lace just above the straight plastic piece. These simple knots never get untied.

Tie your boots with whatever method you normally use.

Pull the loops as big as they will become, the small knots at the end of the laces will stop at the center knot.

(Optional) Tuck your longer than normal loops into your boot so you don't look like an idiot. This gives a clean look in all footware, not just boots.

The laces will likely never come undone, and you won't have to struggle to remove a double knot.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by [deleted] »

js2 wrote: post #92
iandinwoodie wrote: post #6

A few years ago I switched from the "Granny Knot" to the "Ian Knot" [0] in order to (1) eliminate the need for "double knotting" and (2) straighten the bow. Despite the few embarrassing times early in the process where friends observed me struggling to tie my shoes, I can confidently say the switch has been worth it. [0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

The "Ian Knot" pairs well with the Japanese T-shirt folding technique: https://youtu.be/dNr1oLhZ0zs Also, tie wearers, take the time to learn a Full Windsor: https://youtu.be/HXJx8j7JpKY

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Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by UIZealot »

ipqk wrote: post #95
CollinEMac wrote: post #55

This is why I switched to only wearing sneakers that don't have laces. The fact that there's a whole site dedicated to tying your shoes properly tells you everything you need to know and yet this is largely a solved problem. You might think I look childish wearing velco/slip-on shoes all the time but I get a lot of compliments on my Adidas and my Metcons.

I just leave my sneakers tied and use a shoe horn. Super fast and doesn't destroy the heel tab.

I do the same, don't even need a shoe horn, and my heel tabs hold up just fine.

Seriously, who has time to tie their shoelaces everytime they put on their shoes?

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by pydave »

flatline wrote: post #9
qwnp wrote: post #5

The "Ian Knot"[0] (which, I just discovered, was invented by the author of that site) is quite possibly the coolest and fastest way to tie your shoes. [0] - https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

That would not work for me. I need to keep one finger on the slip knot at all times or it becomes loose, resulting in a very unsatisfying knot. This has been by far the biggest hurdle to teaching my kids to tie a decent knot in their shoelaces: they can move through the motions just fine but it's always loose. I actually start with my left index finger on the slip knot then transition to my right index finger halfway…

I use a similar technique to the Ian knot except I pinch the shoelace instead so only the forefinger and pinky are involved and my middle finger is free to hold the slip knot.

The technique I use looks like this: https://youtu.be/_aAeI7p-Tkc?t=11

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by Doxin »

wffurr wrote: post #102
lmilcin wrote: post #90

My favorite shoelace knot is berluti knot. https://www.bestshoe99.in/how-to-tie-shoelaces/ It is symmetrical, it looks beautiful, it takes about as much time to tie and it has exactly zero chance of untying itself. It has never failed me since I learned it.

The Berluti knot looks a lot like "Ian's secure knot" mentioned in other threads: https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm

So having immediately tried this knot, I cannot get it to lay with the laces to the side like that. Mine turns vertical. My first assumption was that I was making a granny knot, but it doesn't matter which way around I knot the second knot.

Is this just a failing of this knot or am I doing something wrong?

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by jerrygoyal »

qwnp wrote: post #5

The "Ian Knot"[0] (which, I just discovered, was invented by the author of that site) is quite possibly the coolest and fastest way to tie your shoes. [0] - https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

thanks. learnt it (Ian knot) in few minutes. curious if there's also a quick way to untie this knot.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by scrollaway »

birktj wrote: post #124
ddlatham wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. I'd guess he means Ian's Secure Knot, which I also now use. https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm

Is it easy to do a tight Ian's Secure Knot? The only place I would need a more secure knot is when skiing and then I also need to tie the laces very tight. Keeping the laces tight while creating the loops seems slightly difficult.

I'm a figure skater. I tie my regular shoes with Ian's secure knot. My skating boots are tied with more regular knots however. Ski shoes would be very similar.

Ian's secure knot doesn't really make sense on such long laces anyway, and making it tight is not very easy because you can't pull to tighten further like you normally would.

The main advantage of Ian's secure knot is that it doesn't come loose over time. But you won't have that problem in ski or skating shoes because you will be redoing much more of the lacing every single time you put them on; a much tighter one at that. So the few hours you'll have your boots on shouldn't make a difference, and if it does, there's something else off in your lacing technique.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by alephu5 »

hultner wrote: post #74
qwnp wrote: post #5

The "Ian Knot"[0] (which, I just discovered, was invented by the author of that site) is quite possibly the coolest and fastest way to tie your shoes. [0] - https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

I’m not sure if it was “invented” by the author, I’ve been doing the same knot for 30 years. We call it rå-bands-knop (raw-strings-knot would be a literal translation) and I believe most kids here learn it at an early age.

I've also noticed that in Colombia they always tie plastic bags with this technique. Even in supermarkets, making them harder to carry.
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