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The “Granny Knot”

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Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by aequitas »

leephillips wrote: post #19
qwnp wrote: post #5

The "Ian Knot"[0] (which, I just discovered, was invented by the author of that site) is quite possibly the coolest and fastest way to tie your shoes. [0] - https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

After I stumbled upon this site years ago, the Ian knot is how I tie my shoes every time. The hardest part about this knot is making sure that somebody is watching while you do it. Every time I tie my shoes alone, I feel an upwelling of regret, as if there has been an opportunity lost.

Agree, the other problem is that the knot hardly ever comes loose. So you have to put in extra effort to create those spontaneous moments where you have to tighten your laces after someones points out they went "loose".

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by dragonwriter »

js2 wrote: post #92
iandinwoodie wrote: post #6

A few years ago I switched from the "Granny Knot" to the "Ian Knot" [0] in order to (1) eliminate the need for "double knotting" and (2) straighten the bow. Despite the few embarrassing times early in the process where friends observed me struggling to tie my shoes, I can confidently say the switch has been worth it. [0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

The "Ian Knot" pairs well with the Japanese T-shirt folding technique: https://youtu.be/dNr1oLhZ0zs Also, tie wearers, take the time to learn a Full Windsor: https://youtu.be/HXJx8j7JpKY

> Also, tie wearers, take the time to learn a Full Windsor

I mean, if you are into attempts to simulate the look of a four-in-hand knot used on a wider piece of material as popularized by a particular celebrity Nazi sympathizer, sure.

Unless you are particularly tall, in which case finding ties long enough to wear with a full windsor is enough trouble that you might as well find something wide enough to achieve the effect the authentic way with a four-in-hand.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

laurieg wrote: post #180
lwansbrough wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did this too and also momentarily forgot how to tie my shoes! (Forgot the new method, and the old method.) Now I have saved literally minutes of my life on shoe tying.

A few weeks ago I went to play a piece on the piano. I completely blanked, tried to piece together the intro by ear but wasn't really getting anywhere. My teacher played the intro and then boom, the whole thing was back under my fingers. The brain really is fascinating.

I went to the shops yesterday and forgot the PIN code for both my cards. I've been typing one of those in for nearly 20 years. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

My mum frequently punches in her postal code instead.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by mrtnmcc »

oldandboring wrote: post #38
iandinwoodie wrote: post #6

A few years ago I switched from the "Granny Knot" to the "Ian Knot" [0] in order to (1) eliminate the need for "double knotting" and (2) straighten the bow. Despite the few embarrassing times early in the process where friends observed me struggling to tie my shoes, I can confidently say the switch has been worth it. [0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

I've been using the Ian knot since around 2005 and it's easily the most impactful "life hack" I've ever made. My shoes basically never come untied.

Was all excited to learn this knot until I realized none of my shoes have laces, I've fully converting to no-tie quicklaces.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by shellfishgene »

ddlatham wrote: post #48
procinct wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn’t it still produce the same knot as the standard shoe tie knot? I thought it was just a faster method?

Yes. I'd guess he means Ian's Secure Knot, which I also now use. https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/secureknot.htm

I like that one also, never comes undone. However there is one major downside: When one of the ends accidentally goes through a loop before pulling on it to untie your shoes, you end up with a very annoying solid knot instead that takes time to fiddle apart.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by darekkay »

wruza wrote: post #86

Speaking of unwanted knot behaviors, your headphones will knot in a pocket if you reel them up around your hand as usual, introducing a twisting moment to the wire. They will knot much less likely, if you fold them into a /\/\/\ shape instead without rotational moves. Not applicable to wireless earbuds.

I've once learned a method to fold my headphones cable that I cannot find anywhere online. You fold the cable in half, twist the cable lengthwise (imagine turning in one direction on a swing), fold the cable in half again and then twist in the other direction (which will mostly happen automatically, because of the tension). I don't remember the last time I had to untwist my headphones cable.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by HPsquared »

elliekelly wrote: post #107
lwansbrough wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did this too and also momentarily forgot how to tie my shoes! (Forgot the new method, and the old method.) Now I have saved literally minutes of my life on shoe tying.

Is there a word or a phrase for this phenomenon? When something becomes a habit requiring no thought at all and then, when forced to actually think about it, the brain draws a complete blank?

That and, apologies in advance, the phenomenon of 'manual breathing'.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by wcrossbow »

laurieg wrote: post #180
lwansbrough wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did this too and also momentarily forgot how to tie my shoes! (Forgot the new method, and the old method.) Now I have saved literally minutes of my life on shoe tying.

A few weeks ago I went to play a piece on the piano. I completely blanked, tried to piece together the intro by ear but wasn't really getting anywhere. My teacher played the intro and then boom, the whole thing was back under my fingers. The brain really is fascinating.

Same thing! I had played the piece 5 minutes before the lesson and right after the lesson warmup (I warmup before the lesson so that my teacher thinks I'm better than I really am...ego..self denial...whatever) he asks for the piece and I can't play beyond the first bar.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by arc-in-space »

elliekelly wrote: post #107
lwansbrough wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did this too and also momentarily forgot how to tie my shoes! (Forgot the new method, and the old method.) Now I have saved literally minutes of my life on shoe tying.

Is there a word or a phrase for this phenomenon? When something becomes a habit requiring no thought at all and then, when forced to actually think about it, the brain draws a complete blank?

Some refer to it as an effect of muscle memory. Something you can do effortlessly, but can't actually describe how to another person.

Re: The “Granny Knot”

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Post by skrebbel »

iandinwoodie wrote: post #6

A few years ago I switched from the "Granny Knot" to the "Ian Knot" [0] in order to (1) eliminate the need for "double knotting" and (2) straighten the bow. Despite the few embarrassing times early in the process where friends observed me struggling to tie my shoes, I can confidently say the switch has been worth it. [0] https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/ianknot.htm

Wow that site's explanation is amazing. I learned it in 2 minutes! Life changing shit!
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