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Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

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Post by rakoo »

amelius wrote: post #79
IshKebab wrote: post #74

Can someone explain the point of federating PeerTube. Their site doesn't really explain it, and it seems like you still need to create an account on every instance you want to use (if you want to comment on/rate videos). How is it different from lots of independent sites, with RSS feeds for each channel?

What I don't understand is why they don't broaden the scope and work more like IPFS, with a thin shell for displaying video data.

What would IPFS solve that is still a problem today? The only disadvantage of bittorrent is that it doesn't handle mutable content, but 1) videos never change and 2) any mutation of content implies a fixed identity, and that is what Peertube is here for.

The biggest problem to solve is diacoverability, a thin shell is not enough if you want to solve the general problem

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

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Post by hansel_der »

raarts wrote: post #106
d0100 wrote: post #22

In all decentralized solutions I've seen, they always seem to effectively become roundabout centralized solutions. No matter how "decentralized" something is, cost is the great centralizer: you can always be excluded either by the cost of running your decentralized hub or by network effects of being blacklisted in free "decentralized" centralized servers I think that the real decentralized solutions can only happen w…

So, 10 -20 years. Prices will have come down enough for every household to host ALL their own data in their router. And offer interested parties API access. And host distributed social platforms.

having been on this line of thinking for the last two decades and not seeing it happen, i'm not optimistic it ever will.

one could easily have ~10TB of storage connected to the router for about the yearly cost of the connection itself, but only a small minority does.

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #13
haolez wrote: post #5

Random idea: we could create a .tube domain to disseminate the idea that YouTube doesn't need to be the only video platform around.

https://wiki.opennic.org/opennic/creating_new_tlds

Seeing as ICANN already has tube. , it's unlikely that that would be allowed.

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

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Post by raarts »

hansel_der wrote: post #152
raarts wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, 10 -20 years. Prices will have come down enough for every household to host ALL their own data in their router. And offer interested parties API access. And host distributed social platforms.

having been on this line of thinking for the last two decades and not seeing it happen, i'm not optimistic it ever will. one could easily have ~10TB of storage connected to the router for about the yearly cost of the connection itself, but only a small minority does.

Because it's too complicated. If this would just be inside every router that would make a huge difference.

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

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Post by anoa_ »

Iv wrote: post #144

Is there a good search engine for peertube content? I feel that's the big problem now. Browsing random instances, I found a lot of (bad) porn, some anarchist concerts, tech tutorials in languages I did not know. I made a search for "music" in sepiasearch.org, assuming this should be broad enough to get something interesting. The top result has 9 views. I can filter by "popular". Look, I understand that Youtube's reco…

There's an official search engine here: https://sepiasearch.org.

At least it's what's used when using the search bar on https://joinpeertube.org.

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

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Post by ggvvfdde »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #115
analognoise wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has this line of thinking ever actually convinced even one person? It's why FOSS can't make serious inroads in a lot of domains. Like 20 years ago I was convinced we'd all never be paying for Word, but here we are, 20 years later, still buying Word.

Word does exactly what it says on the tin and doesnt steal your data. Facebook/google on the other hand...

Are you sure? What is the Microsoft upload center that gets installed with word? I can't figure out how to disable it.

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

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Post by ar0 »

rijoja wrote: post #124

Would it be possible to set up some form of CDN. I.e. a service where you could submit torrent links so that "peertubers" could pool their resources somehow, or if you would like to support certain user by making sure that they get the bandwidth? So I am thinking of nodes that wouldn't actually host the websites but rather only would accept bittorrent URIs and then seeding them. To make sure that the ecosystem doesn'…

PeerTube itself does support “video redundancy”, which allows your instance to mirror popular content from other servers, serving as a sort of CDN: https://docs.joinpeertube.org/admin-following-instances?id=i...

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

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Post by webmobdev »

rijoja wrote: post #124

Would it be possible to set up some form of CDN. I.e. a service where you could submit torrent links so that "peertubers" could pool their resources somehow, or if you would like to support certain user by making sure that they get the bandwidth? So I am thinking of nodes that wouldn't actually host the websites but rather only would accept bittorrent URIs and then seeding them. To make sure that the ecosystem doesn'…

> Would it be possible to set up some form of CDN.

Could be possible with torrent seedboxes ... For example, http://dash.sonicbit.net/ offers 20 GB for around USD 2 / month with HD streaming of torrent ... A couple of these can be used to create some kind of CDN.

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