Question to PeerTube: What are you doing to curb the ever-growing number of white supremacists using your platform?
You know, I've heard almost all white supremacists are using NTP these days too...
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#32Question to PeerTube: What are you doing to curb the ever-growing number of white supremacists using your platform?
I would like to ask the same question to Email.
Are you suggesting that a significant use for email could be communication between white supremacists? It's probably less than 0.0001% of all emails sent.
On the other hand, if PeerTube is used to host a lot of pro-facist video content made by racists that could be a problem for PeerTube. It's an existential threat to the technology. If governments and ISPs see it as predominantly used for that then they'll ban it. If more legitimate users see it being used for that then they'll stop peering video content and it'll become much less useful. PeerTube will live or die by the network effect it needs to be effective. Guarding against the "wrong" users, or at least marketing it so that more of the "right" users join, is essential. Nothing about that is a judgement on the content or the users; it's the simple reality of developing technology in a society full of different opinions.
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#34Question to PeerTube: What are you doing to curb the ever-growing number of white supremacists using your platform?
I would say that if those members are hosting on a PeerTube controlled instance, then perhaps it is a moderation issue. If those members are hosting their own instance that federates? Well, then I think the tool is working as designed. Similar to Mastodon, federation will probably need some controls for flagging external servers as sensitive so users/instance admins can choose to avoid that content if they wish. That'll slightly fragment the market and frustrate content indexing, but... ehh, I think some market fragmentation is preferable to one central authority that not everyone agrees with.
One of the fundamental goals of free software is to enable its use by all people, even and especially people you do not like. That's not a problem for PeerTube to solve, it is a problem for society at large to address within itself.
To frame this another way: think of the criminal organizations which spin up a web server somewhere and install Apache on it to host their illicit content and advertise their services. Is Apache somehow to blame? No, of course not, the criminals are. The same logic applies here; PeerTube, as a sharing platform, is technically able to share any data, including hate speech and other objectionable content. As an unbiased tool, that's a feature not a bug.
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#35Question to PeerTube: What are you doing to curb the ever-growing number of white supremacists using your platform?
I would like to ask the same question to Email.
Email is purely point to point though, it cannot be used to discover new content.
The mailing lists exist, but they are separate entities, not related to email providers or email protocols.
In contrast, https://joinpeertube.org/ recommends videos on front page, and you can find offensive (to some) videos in 2 clicks.
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#37A similar project https://github.com/VeemsHQ/veems
That project doesn't do federation, according to the issue tracker. Federation is the thing that makes PeerTube so special.
the ActivityPub protocol is PeerTube's special sauce, allowing interoperability with many other projects in the ecosystem.
https://github.com/BasixKOR/awesome-activitypub#services
edit: a comment about PeerTube itself, be sure to check out probably its most interesting installation (TILvids), by which interesting means you'll be watching a lot of their content for the edutainment:
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#38Question to PeerTube: What are you doing to curb the ever-growing number of white supremacists using your platform?
I think the answer is that they will allow them to use the platform which is equally open to anybody wishing to debate what they are saying. I know it's hip to consider everybody who does not parrot your opinions as a "white supremacist" but if you really look at the people that are in the movement you will find that they are miniscule in numbers and, for the most part, pretty foolish and easily ignored.
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#39I am very hopeful for Peertube and their project, since I'm currently partaking in hosting a large video website for otherwise content too controversial for mainstream platforms like Youtube. (Political content if you were wondering, but I won't indulge what kind) This takes back control to creators in such a way that essentially only domain registrars will be able to dictate what content may stay alive on the intern…
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