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Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

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Post by neverminder »

rosmax_1337 wrote: post #12

I am very hopeful for Peertube and their project, since I'm currently partaking in hosting a large video website for otherwise content too controversial for mainstream platforms like Youtube. (Political content if you were wondering, but I won't indulge what kind) This takes back control to creators in such a way that essentially only domain registrars will be able to dictate what content may stay alive on the intern…

2010-2015 was the golden age of YouTube. Adpocalypse effectively killed it as a neutral platform and now even mildly controversial videos get demonetized and/or removed. I therefore consider Peertube as essiantial as Wikipedia and Openstreetmap. I hope it becomes mainstream alternative to YouTube.

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

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Post by anamexis »

fallat wrote: post #93
aftbit wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow only one developer working on PeerTube and not even full time. No way will that level of effort be able to challenge any of the incumbents.

It isn't about challenging anything. It's about a libre alternative. Does the apple challenge the orange? They are both fruits!

As a peer-to-peer service, its existence depends on uptake, and as a video service, uptake of PeerTube is a challenge to YouTube.

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

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Post by raarts »

ralusek wrote: post #14
rosmax_1337 wrote: post #12

I am very hopeful for Peertube and their project, since I'm currently partaking in hosting a large video website for otherwise content too controversial for mainstream platforms like Youtube. (Political content if you were wondering, but I won't indulge what kind) This takes back control to creators in such a way that essentially only domain registrars will be able to dictate what content may stay alive on the intern…

> I won't indulge what kind There's only one kind considered too controversial for mainstream.

Which one are you referring to? Because I can think of a few.

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

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Post by raarts »

goodpoint wrote: post #66
stirfish wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>For all I've seen "non-white non-male" is generally given priority in all kinds of areas, certainly in start-up interest. It's considered "hip" to associate with these "non-white non-male" groups, irregardless of their actual performance in whatever area they were prioritized. (To a certain extent at least, they can't be completely nonperforming) Being able to show that you have included these groups in whatever way…

Guess again: > 1) Non-white non-males are given less ability to grow in the "STEM/Entrepreneurship" fields as students and/or children by society. > 2) White men are able to outperform those other groups by some inherent quality. > Nevertheless, 1) seems to be partially disproved Unless I misread, the claim that is being made here is "white males are inherently superior"

To me it's more likely due to not being able to see reality is more nuanced than 2 options.

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

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Post by the_rectifier »

CWuestefeld wrote: post #10
marcodiego wrote: post #6

Couple this news with this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26804977 . We need not only decentralization and "openness". We need independence. People should be held accountable by lies and defamation they eventually spread but the possibility of publishing information or "personal media" should not be arbitrarily controlled by any government, company or market. Edit: replaced "Punishment for crimes like hate spe…

Punishment for crimes like hate speech should be enforced Can I assume you're not in America? In the USA, "hate speech" is not, and cannot be, a crime. The 1st Amendment forbids content-based limitations on speech.

A death threat against a whole ethnicity is illegal and in no way considered protected speech, and same goes for libel and threats to individuals.

And this is by design.

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

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Post by raarts »

d0100 wrote: post #22

In all decentralized solutions I've seen, they always seem to effectively become roundabout centralized solutions. No matter how "decentralized" something is, cost is the great centralizer: you can always be excluded either by the cost of running your decentralized hub or by network effects of being blacklisted in free "decentralized" centralized servers I think that the real decentralized solutions can only happen w…

So, 10 -20 years. Prices will have come down enough for every household to host ALL their own data in their router. And offer interested parties API access. And host distributed social platforms.

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

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Post by [deleted] »

camjohnson26 wrote: post #58
rosmax_1337 wrote: post #12

I am very hopeful for Peertube and their project, since I'm currently partaking in hosting a large video website for otherwise content too controversial for mainstream platforms like Youtube. (Political content if you were wondering, but I won't indulge what kind) This takes back control to creators in such a way that essentially only domain registrars will be able to dictate what content may stay alive on the intern…

I got to see this first hand recently. Tesla has a rabid fan base that try to take down any negative information. Somebody posted a video on YouTube criticizing Tesla’s full self driving system and using short clips from other channels that are clearly fair use. Users spammed DMCA takedown requests and YouTube removed the video. Other users published it to Vimeo, Veoh, and a few other sites but those all got taken do…

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Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

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Post by Mediterraneo10 »

raarts wrote: post #106
d0100 wrote: post #22

In all decentralized solutions I've seen, they always seem to effectively become roundabout centralized solutions. No matter how "decentralized" something is, cost is the great centralizer: you can always be excluded either by the cost of running your decentralized hub or by network effects of being blacklisted in free "decentralized" centralized servers I think that the real decentralized solutions can only happen w…

So, 10 -20 years. Prices will have come down enough for every household to host ALL their own data in their router. And offer interested parties API access. And host distributed social platforms.

Running a server from your home violates the terms of service of many ISPs (they want you to upgrade to a more expensive business plan for that). I’m not sure that is going to change in 10–20 years. Nor do I think router storage space is going to get significantly larger in the next decade, at least not in terms of being able to host large videos.

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

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Post by zaptidizap »

ralusek wrote: post #14
rosmax_1337 wrote: post #12

I am very hopeful for Peertube and their project, since I'm currently partaking in hosting a large video website for otherwise content too controversial for mainstream platforms like Youtube. (Political content if you were wondering, but I won't indulge what kind) This takes back control to creators in such a way that essentially only domain registrars will be able to dictate what content may stay alive on the intern…

> I won't indulge what kind There's only one kind considered too controversial for mainstream.

You would be surpriced

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

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Post by mhh__ »

edhelas wrote: post #88
google234123 wrote: post #82

The choice to maintain 80 projects and not grow beyond 10 employees is puzzling to me. Those two decisions seem antithetical to each other. 80 projects is too many regardless

Welcome to the Free Software movement. I invite you to check how the GitHub page of some core contributors of some projects.

I'm not particularly productive really, but seeing a few people I interact with pumping out open source PRs, and doing releases, all while (say) being the CTO of a company boggles the mind
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