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Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

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Question to PeerTube: What are you doing to curb the ever-growing number of white supremacists using your platform?

Why do you feel like the developers of a project _need_ to do something to prevent people from using it. What exactly can they do in your opinion?

(PS. I'm genuinely asking, I would appreciate an honest reply)

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

#52

I am very hopeful for Peertube and their project, since I'm currently partaking in hosting a large video website for otherwise content too controversial for mainstream platforms like Youtube. (Political content if you were wondering, but I won't indulge what kind) This takes back control to creators in such a way that essentially only domain registrars will be able to dictate what content may stay alive on the intern…

One of the first instances I stumbled upon was this guy. Your mileage may vary.

https://videos.martinezperspective.org/videos/trending?a-sta...

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

#53

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Yes, I'm not in the US. But I think I didn't express myself clearly. Actually, what I mean is more something along the lines: "people should be held accountable by what they spread". Things like defamation are punishable in the US, right?

No, not under criminal law. It requires a civil suit.

Also, in the USA, truth is an absolute defense to a defamation claim. The burden of proof is on the plaintiff to prove that the speaker was wrong, and further, in most cases, that the speaker should have known that it was wrong.

People like to talk about "defamation", but in America the bar is so high that it's only rarely applicable.

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

#54
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Would probably violate trademark law and icann would make you give it up. I guess if you go opennic or use a different alternative root they might not care about court-ordered domain forfeitures.

You could probably get away with never releasing it and just leave it null.

Or simply hand you.tube to YouTube. Why not? :)

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

#55
post #19

Question to PeerTube: What are you doing to curb the ever-growing number of white supremacists using your platform?

I read this kind of complaint, but frequent most of the services concerned and have never seen a single white-supremacist. I see open discourse much the same as HN.

The few times I've visited any of the 'chans however, it's been quite different - but curiously I don't see the same people making these complaints mentioning them.

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

#56
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Are you suggesting that a significant use for email could be communication between white supremacists? It's probably less than 0.0001% of all emails sent. On the other hand, if PeerTube is used to host a lot of pro-facist video content made by racists that could be a problem for PeerTube. It's an existential threat to the technology. If governments and ISPs see it as predominantly used for that then they'll ban it. I…

You're going to crucify an emerging technology for being where edge groups congregate, even though that's that's been the MO of the Internet since BBS days?!

Some technologies (e.g. Secure Scuttlebutt) have the ability for subgroups to exist without aggressively recommending content to every user, as an inherent property of their design; I think "should Peertube adopt some aspects of these designs" is a valid question.

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

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> Punishment for crimes like hate speech should be enforced > "personal media" should not be arbitrarily controlled This threw an exception, because "hate speech" is an arbitrary type. It has no objective definition. It is defined by whoever happens to be defining it.

Not that i agree with the GP comment, but isn't that exactly the point of courts? Eg death threats and all sorts of illegal wording are inaccurate in the literal, programming sense. Humans (courts/etc) interpret and ultimately rule if a set of vague concepts is in violation. If it wasn't for this capability it would be hilariously easy to avoid almost all repercussion from written/spoken word by just adding a dash of…

The activists entrenched in Silicon Valley know better than the peasants or the courts.

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

#58

I am very hopeful for Peertube and their project, since I'm currently partaking in hosting a large video website for otherwise content too controversial for mainstream platforms like Youtube. (Political content if you were wondering, but I won't indulge what kind) This takes back control to creators in such a way that essentially only domain registrars will be able to dictate what content may stay alive on the intern…

I got to see this first hand recently. Tesla has a rabid fan base that try to take down any negative information. Somebody posted a video on YouTube criticizing Tesla’s full self driving system and using short clips from other channels that are clearly fair use. Users spammed DMCA takedown requests and YouTube removed the video. Other users published it to Vimeo, Veoh, and a few other sites but those all got taken down as well, basically killing the video’s spread. The only ones still up are PeerTube and a split version, although I’m not sure if it would disappear if that host chooses to remove it.

It just surprised me how effective this method of censorship was and I wonder how often it happens with more important topics.

Context: https://twitter.com/BS__Exposed/status/1321535914036748288?s... https://twitter.com/icapulet/status/1375232839415906304?s=20 https://twitter.com/FinanceLancelot/status/13752898727562731...

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

#59
post #19

Question to PeerTube: What are you doing to curb the ever-growing number of white supremacists using your platform?

PeerTube isn't a platform, tho. It's software and a corresponding protocol. It's akin to asking Microsoft why their operating system allows people to view csa content.

Re: Our plans for PeerTube v4

#60
post #23

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Elaborate.

Question to Email: What are you doing to curb the ever-growing number of white supremacists using your platform?

Your initial response was confusing. You should've just said: "Email them your question," or something to that extent.

Regardless, I get what you mean.

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