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Particle mystery: physicists confirm the muon is more magnetic than predicted

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There was a nice explanation of the finding in comic format from APS & PhD Comics: https://physics.aps.org/articles/v14/47

The creation of new particles, is that bremsstrahlung?? I’m trying to find more info on it.

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I can't wait for PBS Spacetime to tell me what to think about this.

Am I the only one who barely understands anything from that show? Every episode I hear a dozen barely explained confusing terms with quantum this and higgs-field that. I feel like they care more about impressing me with how complicated this stuff is than they do about actually teaching me much. Maybe I'm just not the target audience :(

No. I imagine lots of children don’t understand anything said on that show as well.

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It’s simple. The universe is electromagnetic. The Bose-Einstein condensate is the aether in most dense form. Everything evaporates into lower densities by means of rotation via the torus and vortices. Everything is pressure finding equilibrium spread throughout densities in fluid. Easy to reason about. The sun is hollow and incompressible aether inside, which is why it’s cold. The surface is electromagnetic activated…

Is there legitimate support for this hollow sun theory, or is this a fringe theory like flat earth and so on?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the essence of my point is that the number of sigmas is meaningless when you have a systematic error — in either the experiment or the theoretical estimate — all that the sigmas tell you is that the two are mismatched. If a mistake could happen once, a similar mistake could easily happen again, so we need to be extremely wary of taking the sigmas at face value. (Eg: the DAMA experiment reports dark matter detecti…

The systematic errors enter the sigma calculation, doesn’t it?

No. As written in another comment, imagine trying to determine whether two brands of cake mixes have the same density by weighing them. If you always weigh one of the brands with a glass bowl, but the other one with a steel bowl, you'll get enormously high units of sigma, but in reality you've only proven that steel is heavier than glass.

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Let me say that this is the best thing that I ever saw in science: people using art to explain extremely complex findings that might change the future in a bit. I laughed a bit on 'I don't know you anymore'. When I was younger, I remember to read cyberpunk comics quite a lot. They explain a vision of the future that is improbable, but in many ways it get stuff right. Imagine aligning this with real word science. Imag…

I used to read the Cartoon Guide to... books as a kid: https://www.amazon.com/Cartoon-Guide-Physics/dp/0062731009 . They were great.

Cartoon History of the Universe is probably the best "nonfiction" comic ever made. (it's not inaccurate but it's kind of psychedelic and retells more than one religious founding text as if it actually happened)

Re: Particle mystery: physicists confirm the muon is more magnetic than predicted

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post #38

There was a nice explanation of the finding in comic format from APS & PhD Comics: https://physics.aps.org/articles/v14/47

The creation of new particles, is that bremsstrahlung?? I’m trying to find more info on it.

Bremsstrahlung is not the creation of virtual particles, though it does involve a virtual photon. It is rather the radiation of (real) photons by electrons when they suddenly "decelerate" (i.e. collide with other charged particles). In fact the name "bremsstrahlung" means "braking radiation," if memory serves.

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Amusingly - fittingly for our times - in the same issue of the exact same journal (Nature) another paper has been published that indicates that the prior, so much "hyped" discrepancy might be due to the theory having being applied inaccurately in the past. When computed with the new method, the experimental and theoretical models align far more accurately. So now all that matters is what kind of article do your want…

What were the times when journalism was better?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

why did they move the magnet from Brookhaven to Chicago?

From what I understand the Magnet is extremely specialized and it would cost millions more to manufacture a second one rather than ship the existing one. As to why Fermilab, scientists had exhausted the capabilities of the particle accelerator at Brookhaven and Fermilab already possessed the equipment to generate more intense muon beams.

All are correct! Also making a new magnet would take at least 3-5 more years.

Re: Particle mystery: physicists confirm the muon is more magnetic than predicted

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post #38

There was a nice explanation of the finding in comic format from APS & PhD Comics: https://physics.aps.org/articles/v14/47

Let me say that this is the best thing that I ever saw in science: people using art to explain extremely complex findings that might change the future in a bit. I laughed a bit on 'I don't know you anymore'. When I was younger, I remember to read cyberpunk comics quite a lot. They explain a vision of the future that is improbable, but in many ways it get stuff right. Imagine aligning this with real word science. Imag…

Which cyberpunk comics? Give us some recommendations please. :)
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