LG is getting out of the mobile phone business • Hacker News Board

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by stjohnswarts » Mon, Apr 05, 2021, 8:26 PM UTC

HeavyStorm wrote: post #632

unethical_ban wrote: post #591

I can only think of a few reasons that LG couldn't make it, and none of them are enough to sink a brand: * Lack of updates * Occasionally non-flagship hardware * That Nexus issue many years ago Their UI is better than Samsung. They're less intrusive than samsung. Their flagships are usually pretty good and come at good discounts soon after release. I have an S21 now, and the number of bloatware samsung apps has me wa…

> I'll miss LG a bit, it isn't as if we need fewer competitors in the Android space. It's Chinese brands, Samsung, and Google now pretty much, no? Does this means that Motorola is now considered a fully Chinese brand?

Yeah I think the only thing it shares with the historical company is the name and the patents they got along with it. I would consider it owned by the CCP at this point and act accordingly to what you consider acceptable as far as security if you have one of their phones (remember software update backdoors can be nearly as bad as hardware backdoors)

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by gorbachev » Mon, Apr 05, 2021, 8:28 PM UTC

Crono wrote: post #445

Very sad. I found the perfect smartphone for me - the V20. It almost feels like a smartphone that happened by accident and will never return in its glorious form again. Dont know what else to use if it dies. Already have a spare Screen and its 4th Battery ready to be used. The second screen is just the perfect solution for having an allways on display without a real (and stupid) notch. I love this feature. Also knock…

I'm still using a V20 as well. It's one of the last phones manufactured with a replaceable battery and a headphone jack. It'll be a sad day when it croaks.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by kogepathic » Mon, Apr 05, 2021, 8:41 PM UTC

jessriedel wrote: post #621

simfoo wrote: post #428

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Samsung S10e has both. Best smartphone I ever owned (once you got rid of all the crapware using ADB).

Are there any services that will strip off bloatware using ADB for you? Would be happy to pay $100 for it to just reliably work out of the box then spend a bunch of time reading forums and worrying that something will break.

Just pick and choose from the list of bloatware: https://github.com/khlam/debloat-samsung-android

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by dizzystar » Mon, Apr 05, 2021, 8:42 PM UTC

unethical_ban wrote: post #591

I can only think of a few reasons that LG couldn't make it, and none of them are enough to sink a brand: * Lack of updates * Occasionally non-flagship hardware * That Nexus issue many years ago Their UI is better than Samsung. They're less intrusive than samsung. Their flagships are usually pretty good and come at good discounts soon after release. I have an S21 now, and the number of bloatware samsung apps has me wa…

If you want minimal bloatware with Android, why not get a Pixel? I've the Pixel 3a for 2 years now. It's the longest-lasting smart phone I've ever had, and there are no indications that it is falling over.

The 4a is 6" and has a headphone jack.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by lwelyk » Mon, Apr 05, 2021, 8:45 PM UTC

jcronenberg wrote: post #312

What I find most sad about this is that LG appears to be the only manufacturer who makes phones with both wireless charging and a headphone jack. Somehow these features seem to contradict themselfs for other manufacturers. Wireless charging is seen as a premium feature, while headphone jack is seen as a budget feature. I unfortunately have gotten so used to both that I don't want to give them up. I love my wired head…

Yeah, I unfortunately finally gave up the headphone jack. My phone broke and I couldn't find a good phone that had wireless charging, a headphone jack and a micro SD card slot. I went with the S20 FE since it had 2 of them. The budget galaxys seem have headphone and mcicro sd but not wireless charging. I almost bought an old S10 since that's the last galaxy with all three, but figured since it'd be losing update support soon I had better pick which feature to lose.

I'm kind of regretting it already. I don't have portable bluetooth headphones right now, had to order some and I kept wanting headphones over the weekend since they haven't arrived yet.

I was kind of leaning towards and LG, but everyone online was saying this was going to happen soon.

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Post by ehsankia » Mon, Apr 05, 2021, 8:57 PM UTC

BardRT wrote: post #264

djmips wrote: post #236

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I wonder if you could even code on that...

Interestingly enough, that was sort of one of the things I occasionally used my WinMo6 HTC Tilt for JUST A LITTLE. Back in 2007 there was a period where I was doing a lot of work on deployed standalone application servers at remote client sites, some of which had little to no internet connection. We'd audit servers before I traveled and send me with the "right software patches", but it didn't always work out perfectl…

Haha, same, when I got my very first Android phone (HTC Dream) with that hardware keyboard, I would sometimes ssh into servers and run commands. There was also a python app on play store that lets you write scripts and run locally. I still sometimes do but it's much hardware with software keyboard.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by acdha » Mon, Apr 05, 2021, 9:38 PM UTC

mackrevinack wrote: post #612

acdha wrote: post #514

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Your comments are interesting in terms of the iOS/Android comparison: both of those are things which just work on iOS without needing to find and configure a separate app. This dynamic shows up constantly in these discussions because HN is full of people who enjoy tinkering as a hobby and have strong opinions about things should work whereas from the perspective of most normal people it’s easier to pay $400 for a not…

does ios remember the volume for every bluetooth device though or is it just headphones? i have tasker set a different volume for my car's bluetooth than my bluetooth headphones. another thing i have tasker do is write down the hours i work every week by detecting the bluetooth tv in work and then the times my car stops in the morning and starts when i head home. then on friday if there are any hours that haven't bee…

I haven't tested that many Bluetooth devices but it seems to be per-device — e.g. my wired headphones are different than either of my Bluetooth speakers or the built-in speaker.

Apple's Shortcuts app supports a number of automation scenarios — for example, I would implement the feature you mentioned with a rule which tells Toggl to start an entry when my location is within a certain radius of work and stop it when I leave. You can also create or add to a note, send emails, etc. Since I have the Pythonista app, that could even extend to running arbitrary code.

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Post by pjmlp » Mon, Apr 05, 2021, 9:48 PM UTC

dvdkon wrote: post #630

pjmlp wrote: post #426

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It makes perfectly sense, Android OS is not GNU/Linux, the Linux syscalls never were or will ever be part of the public API. The public API is based on Java and a couple of NDK APIs, clearly enumerated by Google as stable APIs. They can either adapt themselves to this reality, make use of those APIs in a mingw like way, creating wrappers, or die in their faith that Android is Linux, alongside countless attempts to GN…

So they can either put in a monstrous effort to end up with a worse product or not be on the Play Store. I know what I'd choose. The kind of people who want Termux are capable of downloading an APK, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

APKs are deprecated, replaced by Android App Bundles, adapt or die.

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Post by pjmlp » Mon, Apr 05, 2021, 9:52 PM UTC

oriolid wrote: post #627

pjmlp wrote: post #584

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Because eventually AAudio was created, by the time 64 bit Android started to matter.

Is AAudio really low latency, or "low latency" in the same sense as low latency modes in Android Audio and OpenSL ES? It's surprisingly difficult to find actual numbers that would compare between these three.

In the sense that OpenSL is out of the game, and AAudio is good enough for Samsung to drop their Audio SDK.

Now if you compare it with iOS, it still isn't going to win the race, neither in ms nor in tooling.

https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2021/03/high-perfo...

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Post by mdhen » Mon, Apr 05, 2021, 10:10 PM UTC

lwelyk wrote: post #645

jcronenberg wrote: post #312

What I find most sad about this is that LG appears to be the only manufacturer who makes phones with both wireless charging and a headphone jack. Somehow these features seem to contradict themselfs for other manufacturers. Wireless charging is seen as a premium feature, while headphone jack is seen as a budget feature. I unfortunately have gotten so used to both that I don't want to give them up. I love my wired head…

Yeah, I unfortunately finally gave up the headphone jack. My phone broke and I couldn't find a good phone that had wireless charging, a headphone jack and a micro SD card slot. I went with the S20 FE since it had 2 of them. The budget galaxys seem have headphone and mcicro sd but not wireless charging. I almost bought an old S10 since that's the last galaxy with all three, but figured since it'd be losing update supp…

I recommend getting an es100 to pair with wired headphones