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LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by jessriedel »

simfoo wrote: post #428
jcronenberg wrote: post #312

What I find most sad about this is that LG appears to be the only manufacturer who makes phones with both wireless charging and a headphone jack. Somehow these features seem to contradict themselfs for other manufacturers. Wireless charging is seen as a premium feature, while headphone jack is seen as a budget feature. I unfortunately have gotten so used to both that I don't want to give them up. I love my wired head…

Samsung S10e has both. Best smartphone I ever owned (once you got rid of all the crapware using ADB).

Are there any services that will strip off bloatware using ADB for you? Would be happy to pay $100 for it to just reliably work out of the box then spend a bunch of time reading forums and worrying that something will break.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by jessriedel »

herbst wrote: post #446
tannhaeuser wrote: post #298

Wondering if the Android phone market can be still considered a Google-led mobile "ecosystem" when Samsung is the only big player left with competitors dropping out or struggling, and the big Chinese manufacturers being forced out. Not meant as a snark (owned HTC phones in their heyday and also Samsung S5 and S8); just wondering if Samsung shouldn't aim for a larger influence on Android or even fork, for better or wo…

This appears to be an american centric view. In the rest of the world samsung is really far from the only big player. And i dont see the chinese flag ship sellers dropping at all either. Oppo is growing faster than an other phone company right now. Huawai is dominant for years now too.

Even when you look worldwide, Samsung has ~1/3 of the market, triple the market share of any other competitor.

https://gs.statcounter.com/vendor-market-share/mobile

https://www.appbrain.com/stats/top-manufacturers

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Post by acdha »

oftenwrong wrote: post #603
acdha wrote: post #514

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Your comments are interesting in terms of the iOS/Android comparison: both of those are things which just work on iOS without needing to find and configure a separate app. This dynamic shows up constantly in these discussions because HN is full of people who enjoy tinkering as a hobby and have strong opinions about things should work whereas from the perspective of most normal people it’s easier to pay $400 for a not…

That is true. I prefer an experience that's more fiddly and annoying overall, but that can be customised to fit my preferred usage if necessary. I would not be happy on an iPhone, stuck with what they have chosen. I like to install my own launcher and such. That's why I use GNU/Linux on the desktop, and Android on my phone. Both of these ecosystems are very fragmented as well. For example, my old Android phone had ne…

To be clear, I think this is entirely legitimate. I used Linux on the desktop for years, drove a car with a manual transmission, etc. so I totally understand being in a spot where the broader market is moving in a different direction. I feel like we’re losing something with less control over our devices but totally understand the security & support dynamic which got us here.

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Post by m-ee »

perryizgr8 wrote: post #338
m-ee wrote: post #247

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Samsung does not have the same setup. They added a separate button mapped exclusively to this feature. The iphone has an alternate mapping most aren't even aware of for a multifunctional button

You are misinformed. It works exactly identically as it does on iPhone.

Samsung added a separate hardware button for Bixby, Apple did not. That is not identical. The only buttons on the iPhone are power, volume, and the silent switch. There is no separate Siri button. I’m not sure what you’re disagreeing with here?

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Post by klondike_ »

MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #459
klondike_ wrote: post #5

What happened to the Android phone ecosystem? Android phones used to offer unique and useful features like removable batteries, headphone jacks, IR blasters, SD cards, etc. Now it seems that Samsung and Google are obsessed with copying whatever Apple does, even their controversial decisions like removing the headphone jack, even after making fun of Apple for doing it. No thanks, why would I buy a shittier iPhone with…

If you want to keep a phone going, try a Fairphone. https://shop.fairphone.com/en/fairphone-3-plus I'm too spoiled on having snappier phone specs to enjoy something like this, myself.

I wish they sold this in the US

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Post by oriolid »

pjmlp wrote: post #584
oriolid wrote: post #466

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Samsung Pro Audio used to be the only low-latency audio API on Android devices. AFAIK it was a very thin wrapper over JACK. Of course, using it often crashed the app, and then Samsung first declared it deprecated and then didn't port it to 64-bit runtime.

Because eventually AAudio was created, by the time 64 bit Android started to matter.

Is AAudio really low latency, or "low latency" in the same sense as low latency modes in Android Audio and OpenSL ES? It's surprisingly difficult to find actual numbers that would compare between these three.

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Post by offtop5 »

vbezhenar wrote: post #553
offtop5 wrote: post #499

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This is actually a bit fascinating to me, so do people tend to buy much cheaper phones to begin with. I know in many parts of Eastern Europe iPhones aren't nearly as popular due to the expense. I've had to replace a battery once ( on a Nexus 4)and I will never go through that again.

Generally people tend to buy cheaper phones. But iPhones are kind of exception, some people are so obsessed with iPhones that they're trying to get loan to buy iPhone. It's not really logical decision, they just want to look more wealthy than they are, it's kind of luxury item.

People take out loans for IPhones in the US too.

You also have bizzario phone deals where if you pay 2 to 3x as much for service you can get a free IPhone. I personally buy a phone for 300$ or so every year or 2. Right now I pay about 30$ a month for 2 lines, but you can definitely spend 150$ a month for 2 lines plus financed phones.

Americans love ZERO down deals, so you can get you and your partner IPhones and worry about paying em next month.

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Post by dvdkon »

pjmlp wrote: post #426
Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #369

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Sorry that doesn't make any sense. The whole point of Termux is to make GNU/Linux tools available on Android without root by compiling it for the Termux environment, to run those packages from the user directory it needs exec(). You seem to suggest that it rather be android packages, for that you don't need Termux in the first place.

It makes perfectly sense, Android OS is not GNU/Linux, the Linux syscalls never were or will ever be part of the public API. The public API is based on Java and a couple of NDK APIs, clearly enumerated by Google as stable APIs. They can either adapt themselves to this reality, make use of those APIs in a mingw like way, creating wrappers, or die in their faith that Android is Linux, alongside countless attempts to GN…

So they can either put in a monstrous effort to end up with a worse product or not be on the Play Store. I know what I'd choose. The kind of people who want Termux are capable of downloading an APK, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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