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LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by patentatt »

postingawayonhn wrote: post #206
trabant00 wrote: post #116

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Because at large people don't select their phone based on what you mention. What does matter I believe is marketing. I think most importantly is Samsung's image presence vs LG. Can't remember the last time I've seen a TV advert for LG. Or a billboard in the city center, or youtube hype from influencers, etc. While Samsung is everywhere. Second is the cool factor. LG has none while Samsung have this as a priority. Fro…

I think for Samsung the key was to build a loyal customer base by copying the iPhone at a lower price point. Thier designs have now departed significantly from those of Apple but the core customers have stuck around.

You may be on to something here. The comparison isn’t in 2020, but in 2010-ish. I’d say the distinction then was much more pronounced, and Samsung gained a lot of good will in that era.

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Post by hackerfromthefu »

matkoniecz wrote: post #371
pjmlp wrote: post #299

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The anecdote data of everyone I know that keeps buying devices like Samsung, Huawei and Xiomi.

Xiaomi sells also devices with stock Android, the same goes likely for other mentioned companies

Do you seriously belive a xiaomi phone isn't siphoning off your data to other servers than the usual google servers?

So it's probably more accurately described as stock-appearing Android ..

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Post by herbst »

pjmlp wrote: post #134
ohazi wrote: post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

Because using stock Android is like the phone version of year of Linux Desktop. It is so ugly from UI/UX perspective, that almost everyone ends up installing a theme anyway. Then Google only does the minimum in features, and their software is crap. For many years, if you wanted proper music software, Samsung phones with their custom real time audio SDK were the only option on Android ecosystem. Same applies to the qu…

What does Samsung audio do better than other phones? I still own a mp3 player because not even those shitty beats phones did a close to clear sound experience.

Ps: i never used a theme. All i want is stock android o.O

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Post by kijin »

eptcyka wrote: post #391
mcny wrote: post #302

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My guess is it is a self fulfilling prophecy. If a lot of people have older devices, application developers have to support the older API levels. For example, a store called Safeway decided to cut out an older version of Android. However, they reversed less than a month later. Speaking of marketing, I think LG does market quite a bit inside the Republic of Korea. I saw a show called oh my ghost and everyone had an LG…

I really don't care about apps, I've barely ever ran into app compatibility issues on older devices. What I care about is security updates.

Nobody I know who isn't seriously into tech even realizes that phones need security updates.

The problem is compounded by the fact that every manufacturer has their own schedule for security updates. Just because Android got a widely publicized security patch doesn't mean that their phones will get it any time soon. By the time they do, nobody remembers what it's for.

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Post by Crono »

Very sad. I found the perfect smartphone for me - the V20. It almost feels like a smartphone that happened by accident and will never return in its glorious form again. Dont know what else to use if it dies. Already have a spare Screen and its 4th Battery ready to be used.

The second screen is just the perfect solution for having an allways on display without a real (and stupid) notch. I love this feature. Also knock to power on is super convenient. Battery is replacable. The Screen is super sharp. Its thin despite its very accessible inner parts. The amp and music quality is absolutely awesome. The camera is awesome as is the sound recording quality. The IR Blaster ist just super convenient. Also the FM-Radio is a very nice addition. The camera-app is just awesome and i have yet not managed to find something simmilar. Also i like the gallery app. And the sound recording app. Its also fast, has enough power still to this day. And the SD-Card Slot combined with the internal memory gives me 640GB Storage. Also Dual SIM is nice.

Really it is such an awesome phone that im not sure how this phone happened in the first place. As each Smartphone does at least 2 things stupid or hase some dumb features no one asked for.

Its allways the same with me - as soon as i find the absolute perfect hardware - its already legacy and nothing like it is buyable in the future ...

The V20 is like the perfect tool. No stupid features only used for sales, no shortcuts, just a very nice package. Two things i would change: Cameras should never stick out and the volume buttons should be on the back like on the G4.

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Post by herbst »

tannhaeuser wrote: post #298

Wondering if the Android phone market can be still considered a Google-led mobile "ecosystem" when Samsung is the only big player left with competitors dropping out or struggling, and the big Chinese manufacturers being forced out. Not meant as a snark (owned HTC phones in their heyday and also Samsung S5 and S8); just wondering if Samsung shouldn't aim for a larger influence on Android or even fork, for better or wo…

This appears to be an american centric view. In the rest of the world samsung is really far from the only big player. And i dont see the chinese flag ship sellers dropping at all either. Oppo is growing faster than an other phone company right now. Huawai is dominant for years now too.

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Post by asah »

mdiesel wrote: post #387
neogodless wrote: post #383

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My nephew asked me what my phone was. I said a OnePlus 7 Pro. He said "is that a Samsung?" My anecdote suggests there is only iPhone and Samsung that people choose between. Of course many know there are other options, but that seems like the mindset of the masses.

+1 for OnePlus. I started years back on the 2, upgraded more recently to the 6T. Will take a lot of convincing for me to even think about anyone else. Same experience though, people have either heard of it and rave about it, or ask who makes it.

serious q: OnePlus looks *great* but I'm concerned about the Chinese government and the de facto cyberwar with the US.

Example: I have security sensitive US clients, and I'd be concerned that (in the future, let alone present) I'd be labeled a security risk for carrying a "chinese cellphone."

How do you mitigate this concern? (serious replies only please)

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Post by herbst »

klondike_ wrote: post #5

What happened to the Android phone ecosystem? Android phones used to offer unique and useful features like removable batteries, headphone jacks, IR blasters, SD cards, etc. Now it seems that Samsung and Google are obsessed with copying whatever Apple does, even their controversial decisions like removing the headphone jack, even after making fun of Apple for doing it. No thanks, why would I buy a shittier iPhone with…

I have all those features and my next android phone will have them too. Are you comparing samsung with the android ecosystem?

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Post by mensetmanusman »

murukesh_s wrote: post #375
mjevans wrote: post #280

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You should teach your children, and those in your extended family, how to, and to, avoid ads. We should all also do our part to end the political ad insanity. This can't be healthy for anyone.

I have stricter no screen policy at my home. But since she is staying with her grand parents now (due to reasons beyond my control) and they are used to watching TV, she ends up watching it too. And its really difficult to avoid ads, you get that in all the channels.

Sorry to hear.

I remember when we went to my grandmas house, and the media was talking about a ‘major crisis’ in the White House, like they do every day.

Our seven-year-old suddenly got concerned and has to be calmed down, because she is so rarely exposed to American media.

I feel bad for this generation, and I’m not surprised that almost half of our senior high school girls (at least on one sports team) are on anti-anxiety medication.

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Post by oriolid »

mdiesel wrote: post #387
neogodless wrote: post #383

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My nephew asked me what my phone was. I said a OnePlus 7 Pro. He said "is that a Samsung?" My anecdote suggests there is only iPhone and Samsung that people choose between. Of course many know there are other options, but that seems like the mindset of the masses.

+1 for OnePlus. I started years back on the 2, upgraded more recently to the 6T. Will take a lot of convincing for me to even think about anyone else. Same experience though, people have either heard of it and rave about it, or ask who makes it.

OnePlus seems to have same kind of marketing aura as Samsung. I remember when they first came out and my co-workers were bragging about the great features OnePlus had. It turned out that Nexus 5 had all the same stuff.
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