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Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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The anecdote data of everyone I know that keeps buying devices like Samsung, Huawei and Xiomi.

Xiaomi sells also devices with stock Android, the same goes likely for other mentioned companies

They do sell such devices yeah, yet what most people buy make use of MIUI, likewise for the other vendors.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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With fast charging, removable batteries aren't that important now. IR blaster is too niche. SD card, headphone jack are still available in lot of phones, but again aren't deciding factor for most people. IPhone is an aspirational brand with awesome marketing, so things like notch which don't make much sense are copied by everyone.

>removable batteries aren't that important now If you like throwing out your phones every two to three years, then sure.

They lose software updates by then anyways

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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post #381

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I have a Samsung phone that used to be their top of the line. I have never updated it because I know the next update disables call recording. I believe any subsequent phone has non-working (probably not in every region) call recording so that is a deal breaker for me. It seems like they got lobbied by insurance companies who scam people over the phone (they promise options that turn out to be a lie) and you can't rea…

> It seems like they got lobbied by insurance companies who scam people over the phone I always wondered why Android disabled call recording.

Could also be because recording calls without telling is highly illegal in a lot if not all of europe. There are still apps that can do that afaik

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

On a global level, 1. LG are crap at discovery ( Sales and Marketing ) and distribution. Something which despite HN is a forum from VC and Startup, pays very little attention to. 2. LG's phone QA were never really as good. This has been the case since pre-Smartphone era. 3. LG WOLED, something they tried to get it work on Smartphone but never worked and their AMOLED panel were inferior, which sort of have a knock on…

> 5. Samsung are great at making Smartphone. Their whole Business Model.

The same Samsung that earned way more with everything but phones? (Probably changed meanwhile, but it wasnt the case for a long time)

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

> the stupid bottom button placement

Are you talking about the home button? I actually love that and it's the reason I got the S4 and then S7. I've been putting off buying a new phone because all the new phones are digital buttons and I really like having the physical ones.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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post #302

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My guess is it is a self fulfilling prophecy. If a lot of people have older devices, application developers have to support the older API levels. For example, a store called Safeway decided to cut out an older version of Android. However, they reversed less than a month later. Speaking of marketing, I think LG does market quite a bit inside the Republic of Korea. I saw a show called oh my ghost and everyone had an LG…

> I saw a show called oh my ghost and everyone had an LG phone in the show. That's product placement?

If that’s how LG decided to spend their phone marketing budget then someone deserves to be fired.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

It sort of depends on the bubble you live in. In the US, things might be very different, but in rest of the world, Samsung isn't the only known Android phone manufacturer. Xiaomi is a well-known and rising (now the #3). Huawei was the a big player but losing ground. Oppo is well known: https://gs.statcounter.com/vendor-market-share/mobile

This. Samsung always was only one of many options here in central europe. Never appeared to be the “main choice“ either, except from people who look for the cheapest phone replacemt with their carrier and end up with a galaxy light product

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Stock Android UI is ugly? Now that's a first. I've harbored the suspicion those who prefer "theming" their phones are not detail oriented. That or they're fine with the trade-offs. For example I've always noticed inconsistencies and jankiness with anything that's not close to stock Android. Be it Samsung's TouchWiz or others, all are like a cheap veneer of dross over stock Android. They all just feel so tacky.

Samsung TouchWiz has been dead for several years now, their OneUI is in what, third iteration now? From aesthetic and usability point, it is indeed nicer than stock android.

i suppose thats a matter of taste .. i moved from stock android to s20+, and i agree its not as bad as previous samsung touchwiz era :)

but then i declined most of the samsung apps - google already has all my data and i dont want to share it with samsung on top of that, and then samsung also included third party services such as a dialer app which i didn't use because of the (lack of) privacy policy

overall i'm looking forward to getting back to stock android!

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

Counterpoint: I have a rather good experience with Samsung. I bought flagships devices some time after their releases (I had S2, S4, S8 and now a S10e from work) and they lasted me a long time (S2 and S4 both lasted for four years).

The big advantage is that they were powerful devices with a removable battery and a SD-card slot.

Downside was a tendency to overheat a bit (this was particularly bad on the S2 at some point, though I recall subsequent software updates helped a lot).

In all cases, the devices kept being updated to the latest android while I was using them.

The Samsung Android additions are pretty much useless except maybe one or two good ideas, but they also don't get in the way. I just spend 30 minutes to disable things when I get my phone.

Also I don't know if you've looked at real stock android (e.g. fire an emulator from Android studio for instance) but that stuff is real ugly (shouldn't be a big consideration - it can be themed quite easily, but I felt I needed to make this point).

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

At least in the places I've been in Asia distribution is a huge part of it. Samsung phones are available in every shop and they have their own dedicated stores in the bigger shopping malls.

The asia ive seen was at least 50% oppo shops and 30% fake apple shops and only like 20% for everything else. Thailand, cambodia and malaysia about 5 years ago that is.
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