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Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by matkoniecz » Mon, Apr 05, 2021, 10:47 AM UTC

pjmlp wrote: post #299

matkoniecz wrote: post #182

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> It is so ugly from UI/UX perspective, that almost everyone ends up installing a theme anyway. Sources? Because I see no substantial difference and I deliberately bought phone with stock Android as it has just Google garbage, rather than both Google garbage and phone manufacturer garbage.

The anecdote data of everyone I know that keeps buying devices like Samsung, Huawei and Xiomi.

Xiaomi sells also devices with stock Android, the same goes likely for other mentioned companies

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by Jefff8 » Mon, Apr 05, 2021, 10:48 AM UTC

ohazi wrote: post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

I'm not especially pro-Samsung, and I'm just one consumer and I'm sure that for every unhappy one, there's someone who loves LG or loathes Samsung, but I will never buy any LG product at all if there's something else available which is about equivalent.

They sold me their top-end phone, years ago, for a top-end price, on the basis that they would update Android in the next three months. It was a nice phone, but three became six, which became a few years - three or four or five.

Eventually they did offer the option, of course by then I was not using the phone, but I tried to upgrade anyway, and my phone would not upgrade. There was no support when I asked apart from 'download it and it should work'.

So in answer to your question, it's not about Samsung, it's about LG for me - and they destroyed all credibility with me - I don't believe claims on build quality, I don't believe claims about support, I don't believe any of their advertising. And I actively advise friends not to buy their products, when asked.

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by magicalhippo » Mon, Apr 05, 2021, 10:54 AM UTC

Macha wrote: post #354

magicalhippo wrote: post #340

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I take advantage of that all the time. I lost two mobile phones to rain before I decided I'll never buy a phone without waterproofing again.

I've replaced three phones to battery expiration and one phone to water damage (dropped in a mud filled puddle - it turned on again after drying out but didn't trust it seeing corroded battery/sim contacts). I'm especially curious how rain has damaged phones - I use them in Ireland where you can just say "scattered showers" and have a 50% chance of an accurate forecast. Never thought twice about using any in the rain…

> Or are people using phones in hurricanes or monsoons or something?

I don't know about those, but we get fairly heavy rainfall every now and then here in Norway. The kind where your underwear gets soaking wet for no other reason than being outside.

I keep my phone in the front pocket of my pants, and after losing two phones to such events I decided that was enough for me.

Now I can check when the bus is due or take that call even if it's raining (heavy or not) and I don't have to think about it.

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Post by carstenhag » Mon, Apr 05, 2021, 10:55 AM UTC

xpressvideoz wrote: post #69

I've appreciated LG's adventurous moves. The one I liked the most was LG Optimus 3D, which provided a naked-eye 3D display similar to that of Nintendo 3DS. The most recent LG Wing, I was hopeful. But LG also left a bad taste in my mouth. The last LG phone I used, Nexus 5X, died all of a sudden, but after months of despair, I could revive it using a freaking hair dryer .[1] Yeah, some of you who are well versed to sol…

The LG G4 (which I had) was also plagued by a similar issue, you could put the logic board into an oven for half an hour and if you were lucky that would resolve the issue. For me, it only helped for 5 minutes or so, then it broke again. The support did not help at all because I had unlocked the bootloader, even though it was an hardware issue (I was in Spain back then).

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Post by murukesh_s » Mon, Apr 05, 2021, 10:58 AM UTC

mjevans wrote: post #280

murukesh_s wrote: post #234

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its election time in my home state in India and my 6+ year old asks me who will win the election? I was surprised at the question and the fact that she is able to articulate the political party names. At her age i didn't even know what a political party is. I then realized she sees lots of Television now ever since she moved to her grandama's house during covid. She goes and names three top parties herself and predic…

You should teach your children, and those in your extended family, how to, and to, avoid ads. We should all also do our part to end the political ad insanity. This can't be healthy for anyone.

I have stricter no screen policy at my home. But since she is staying with her grand parents now (due to reasons beyond my control) and they are used to watching TV, she ends up watching it too. And its really difficult to avoid ads, you get that in all the channels.

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Post by varispeed » Mon, Apr 05, 2021, 10:59 AM UTC

Jefff8 wrote: post #372

ohazi wrote: post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

I'm not especially pro-Samsung, and I'm just one consumer and I'm sure that for every unhappy one, there's someone who loves LG or loathes Samsung, but I will never buy any LG product at all if there's something else available which is about equivalent. They sold me their top-end phone, years ago, for a top-end price, on the basis that they would update Android in the next three months. It was a nice phone, but three…

I have a Samsung phone that used to be their top of the line. I have never updated it because I know the next update disables call recording. I believe any subsequent phone has non-working (probably not in every region) call recording so that is a deal breaker for me. It seems like they got lobbied by insurance companies who scam people over the phone (they promise options that turn out to be a lie) and you can't really prove it unless you record them. Call recording saved me few times from losing money. You can also record calls with your parents, so you can listen to them forever.

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Post by bengale » Mon, Apr 05, 2021, 11:01 AM UTC

cageface wrote: post #267

Tiktaalik wrote: post #93

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It's not that Samsung n' co is copying Apple, it's that Apple is making the right design and tech choices for the right reasons and Samsung is figuring this out too and making the same choices.

Samsung has led the way in many respects. Higher refresh displays, multiple cameras, always-on displays, in-screen fingerprint readers, much larger phones, etc.

Doesn't this just come down to them being able to put emerging technology in their devices faster due to not having the same insane supply requirements that apple has?

Re: LG is getting out of the mobile phone business

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Post by varispeed » Mon, Apr 05, 2021, 11:03 AM UTC

I remember announcement that Samsung pulls out of the laptop market, yet they still seem to be doing those. At the time I had a Samsung laptop which was an abomination.

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Post by wallaBBB » Mon, Apr 05, 2021, 11:03 AM UTC

Jefff8 wrote: post #372

ohazi wrote: post #66

I never understood why Samsung phones were constantly receiving praise by tech reviewers while LG got crapped on. Samsung always wanted to do things their way -- different (shitty) UI, Samsung versions of all the core Google apps (but worse), reorganizing preferences for no reason, the stupid bottom button placement, non-remappable Bixby button, aggressively killing apps for power management and breaking widgets, etc…

I'm not especially pro-Samsung, and I'm just one consumer and I'm sure that for every unhappy one, there's someone who loves LG or loathes Samsung, but I will never buy any LG product at all if there's something else available which is about equivalent. They sold me their top-end phone, years ago, for a top-end price, on the basis that they would update Android in the next three months. It was a nice phone, but three…

yup, basically what you described is what has been an issue with LG android phones from the start - support, especially SW upgrades.

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Post by cageface » Mon, Apr 05, 2021, 11:12 AM UTC

bengale wrote: post #377

cageface wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Samsung has led the way in many respects. Higher refresh displays, multiple cameras, always-on displays, in-screen fingerprint readers, much larger phones, etc.

Doesn't this just come down to them being able to put emerging technology in their devices faster due to not having the same insane supply requirements that apple has?

Samsung sells a lot of phones too.

I think it has more to do with the fact that better and more innovative hardware is the only way Samsung can differentiate from other Android vendors and that they don't have the sticky ecosystem that Apple has so they need people to keep upgrading.