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The EU archived “Euromyths” printed in UK media (2018)

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British tabloids Daily Mail, The Sun, Daily Express, The Telegraph, FT etc. a cocktail of toxic trash

The Telegraph and the Financial Times are not tabloids.

The FT isn't. The Telegraph certainly is, although it pretends so very hard not to be.

Re: The EU archived “Euromyths” printed in UK media (2018)

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It’s misrepresented. The regulation unified laws across countries to enable trade. It actually cut down on laws by creating one to cover all countries. Countries already had their own differing laws on food standards before making trade difficult.

Except you could enable trade without banning curvy bananas. All they had to do was standardize a rating system for bananas, and then countries could chose to ban whichever ratings they liked. Its a clear system that allows and enables trade, while letting countries have their own regulation.

It's not that simple. You're falling prey to a common misrepresentation of EU regulations. They were all initially very complex, sometimes looking almost absurd, because they were comprised and based on the bilaterial treaties and regulations of 28 member states. The EU then gradually simplified the regulation over the years.

You'd think that simple combinatorics would make people understand the benefits of this procedure, but unfortunately journalists always picked on the initial complexity of the rules. Especially during the 80s this was a "low hanging fruit" for writing another fun article.

In other words, pick any 28 random countries from the world and write an article that explains all of their import & export regulations, food safety standards, etc. You'll see what you get...

Re: The EU archived “Euromyths” printed in UK media (2018)

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Except you could enable trade without banning curvy bananas. All they had to do was standardize a rating system for bananas, and then countries could chose to ban whichever ratings they liked. Its a clear system that allows and enables trade, while letting countries have their own regulation.

I don't think they were ever 'banned' in any sensible meaning of that word though - you could always sell them as a different class of banana. (But I don't understand what anyone in industry or government has got against the curative of fruit in the first place - what a pointless thing to classify by.)

If you and your competitors have exclusive suppliers, you’ll want your competition to have their suppliers banned while your suppliers are favored.

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>I never consult the world news section of big name media publications Just curious, why not?

My guess is they “just don’t trust it” without a reason. This type of person never has a reason, they just parrot what they’ve heard without thinking critically.

What are your thoughts on the comment where they explained their reasoning?

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There is nothing authoritarian about dispelling myths. These were not about opinions, they concerned literally false claims about EU directives and regulations.

Lol. EU doesn't have NGO can do this? The government has to be the one to run the Truth department?

Every large institution rectifies blatant misrepresentations about themselves in press conferences, including all governments of the world and all companies. It's weird to assume they shouldn't.

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I can't believe official government resources are designated to this kind of stuff. It sounds authoritarian to me. No matter how you disprove the selected "euromyths". This action itself just directly prove the broader point: EU has an overarching government. Wow. Got tons of downvotes. By the end of the day, the simple logic is that the false reports do not hurt truthful reports. If the truthful reports prove their…

There is nothing authoritarian about dispelling myths. These were not about opinions, they concerned literally false claims about EU directives and regulations.

Selectively taking incorrect statements from one side is a way of technically being truthful while pushing one sided information, i.e. it's propaganda.

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There is nothing authoritarian about dispelling myths. These were not about opinions, they concerned literally false claims about EU directives and regulations.

Lol. EU doesn't have NGO can do this? The government has to be the one to run the Truth department?

If it would be EU sponsored NGO doing this, you would argue it's a department of truth proxy wouldn't you?

Re: The EU archived “Euromyths” printed in UK media (2018)

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>Broadband speeds, red tape – EU red tape force down broadband speeds, May 2016 I know all of these are nonsense, but this one is particularly funny to me. In London I was limited to 80mbps copper cable, but since moving to a European city I now have gigabit fibre for around the same price (and 10 gigabit is available too for a small extra.)

> In London I was limited to 80mbps copper cable, but since moving to a European city I now have gigabit fibre for around the same price (and 10 gigabit is available too for a small extra.) That's probably not because it's a "European city", but because it's a city in some specific European country. The UK has similar average broadband speeds compared to e.g. Germany.

> The UK has similar average broadband speeds compared to e.g. Germany.

German here, please don't use us as a basis to judge Europe!

Our broadband is atrocious, dating back to a decision of then-Chancellor Kohl in the 80s - public antenna-broadcast TV was "too left wing" (=in reality, too critical of his Conservative government), so he scrapped the fibre rollout plan of his predecessor and directed all the funding to cable TV networks where private programs could be aired.

And our mobile networks are atrocious because our red-green government in the early '00s was pressured by Conservatives to obtain a surplus budget ("Schwarze Null") so they extracted 50 billion € in license fees from the operators - money that they subsequently lacked building out the network. And a couple years past that, Merkel's Conservatives gained power - her most infamous line is "Das Internet ist Neuland" (Internet is a new area) in 2013 (!).

I wish I was joking about all of this, we're a goddamn laughing stock. Hopefully we get rid of this bunch in September.

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