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The EU archived “Euromyths” printed in UK media (2018)

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Re: The EU archived “Euromyths” printed in UK media (2018)

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Post by jonathanstrange »

temp8964 wrote: post #19

I can't believe official government resources are designated to this kind of stuff. It sounds authoritarian to me. No matter how you disprove the selected "euromyths". This action itself just directly prove the broader point: EU has an overarching government. Wow. Got tons of downvotes. By the end of the day, the simple logic is that the false reports do not hurt truthful reports. If the truthful reports prove their…

There is nothing authoritarian about dispelling myths. These were not about opinions, they concerned literally false claims about EU directives and regulations.

Re: The EU archived “Euromyths” printed in UK media (2018)

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Post by chrisseaton »

jdasdf wrote: post #30
kjakm wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s misrepresented. The regulation unified laws across countries to enable trade. It actually cut down on laws by creating one to cover all countries. Countries already had their own differing laws on food standards before making trade difficult.

Except you could enable trade without banning curvy bananas. All they had to do was standardize a rating system for bananas, and then countries could chose to ban whichever ratings they liked. Its a clear system that allows and enables trade, while letting countries have their own regulation.

I don't think they were ever 'banned' in any sensible meaning of that word though - you could always sell them as a different class of banana.

(But I don't understand what anyone in industry or government has got against the curative of fruit in the first place - what a pointless thing to classify by.)

Re: The EU archived “Euromyths” printed in UK media (2018)

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Post by lettergram »

This is equivalent to the “victor” of a conflict writing history.

Ideally, this stuff should show the original statement, their sources and a critique, then potentially a rebuttal.

So often, political coverage contains outright lies or mischaracterized truths from both sides.

Take in recent news the “hunter biden laptop”. A senate subcommittee documented it appeared legitimate (a quick search finds this https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/HSGAC_Finance_Rep...), yet the news almost everywhere claimed it’s “fake news”. Even Wikipedia claims it a “conspiracy theory”, which based on the senate report - it is a conspiracy, but not a theory.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biden%E2%80%93Ukraine_conspi...

The wiki even contains stuff that has since been retracted.

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/31/983159102/hunter-bidens-memoi...

> A previous version of this story said U.S. intelligence had discredited the laptop story. U.S. intelligence officials have not made a statement to that effect.

I think it’s fine to criticize stuff, but you have to present both sides. Not just say “fake news” and move on.

Re: The EU archived “Euromyths” printed in UK media (2018)

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Post by stephvd »

Fiveplus wrote: post #14
stephvd wrote: post #8

Good. Sets precedent for other major powers to document misinformation efforts by 'international media'. I never consult the world news section of big name media publications.

>I never consult the world news section of big name media publications Just curious, why not?

Most of the times for developing stories, I like getting the full picture after consulting multiple local sources rather than getting my worldview from the vantage point of international correspondents.

Re: The EU archived “Euromyths” printed in UK media (2018)

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Post by temp0826 »

aardvarkr wrote: post #18
Fiveplus wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I never consult the world news section of big name media publications Just curious, why not?

My guess is they “just don’t trust it” without a reason. This type of person never has a reason, they just parrot what they’ve heard without thinking critically.

Though I don't agree with the generalization of lumping together any/all publishers, how does one regain trust in a publisher after losing it for a legitimate reason?

Re: The EU archived “Euromyths” printed in UK media (2018)

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Post by reddotX »

zepto wrote: post #2

It doesn’t seem to show which publications these were in. Some of these headlines only show up in this article itself, when I Google for them. Without knowing what the sources are and what the articles say, there is no way to make sense of this list.

British tabloids Daily Mail, The Sun, Daily Express, The Telegraph, FT etc. a cocktail of toxic trash

Re: The EU archived “Euromyths” printed in UK media (2018)

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Post by temp8964 »

jonathanstrange wrote: post #31
temp8964 wrote: post #19

I can't believe official government resources are designated to this kind of stuff. It sounds authoritarian to me. No matter how you disprove the selected "euromyths". This action itself just directly prove the broader point: EU has an overarching government. Wow. Got tons of downvotes. By the end of the day, the simple logic is that the false reports do not hurt truthful reports. If the truthful reports prove their…

There is nothing authoritarian about dispelling myths. These were not about opinions, they concerned literally false claims about EU directives and regulations.

Lol. EU doesn't have NGO can do this? The government has to be the one to run the Truth department?

Re: The EU archived “Euromyths” printed in UK media (2018)

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Post by carmen_sandiego »

eertami wrote: post #20

>Broadband speeds, red tape – EU red tape force down broadband speeds, May 2016 I know all of these are nonsense, but this one is particularly funny to me. In London I was limited to 80mbps copper cable, but since moving to a European city I now have gigabit fibre for around the same price (and 10 gigabit is available too for a small extra.)

Just depends where you live. Plenty of gigabit connections in London.

Re: The EU archived “Euromyths” printed in UK media (2018)

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Post by black_puppydog »

antientropic wrote: post #22

Here is the actual (archived) Euromyths website: https://wayback.archive-it.org/11980/20191004103218/https://... It appears the EC has deleted it since debunking myths in the British press has become rather pointless post-brexit.

Glad it has been archived. It might be futile to keep debunking, but it's important to remember where this anti-EU sentiment came from.
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