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Re: Latest Mozilla VPN features

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post #57

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> As far as I know, in a lot of country (like France) it is a legal obligation to keep logs and be able to identify one of your customer if the police demands it. Not for all types of services. ISPs are sometimes under obligation to log, but VPN services don't belong in that category. I can't speak for others but we have contacts with legal experts (in a few jurisdictions) that alert us to changing laws. Ultimately i…

I would love to use Mullvad, but I need split tunneling on a per-process basis (Windows), since there is the occasional website that hates VPN-based servers. I have a special browser installation I use for such occasions, but few VPN providers offer per-process VPN exceptions. Any chance Mullvad is considering this feature?

If you squint at the git repository, you might see that its being worked on.

Re: Latest Mozilla VPN features

#172
post #74

I genuinely don't understand what is the incentive for using Mozilla VPN? I'm a Mozilla and Firefox fanboy, but this new product had me sceptical since the beginning. They literally bring nothing to the table except their brand name. They don't even do the server side, but just resell Mullvad's infrastructure with their brand. I'm already a Mullvad customer, and if I were to switch to Mozilla VPN: * It would not be a…

> I genuinely don't understand what is the incentive for using Mozilla VPN? Supporting browser development instead of Mozilla Foundation. This way at least they pass through the hands of the organization that does the most important work. (Nothing against the other issues but right now the browser should be their top priority and I was massively annoyed when I found that donations towards the foundation couldn't be u…

> Supporting browser development instead of Mozilla Foundation.

But is it going towards Browser development though? https://calpaterson.com/mozilla.html

Or is it going towards executive salaries?

Re: Latest Mozilla VPN features

#173
post #87

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I signed up for Mozilla VPN instead of Mullvad for a two reasons: 1. It was priced in USD. 2. The price is a flat monthly $5. They don't offer discounts for longer contracts.

> 2. The price is a flat monthly $5. They don't offer discounts for longer contracts. This is something Mulvad has been doing since 2009.. https://mullvad.net/en/pricing

4.99 USD vs 5 Euro (5.87 USD) would make Mozilla VPN 15% cheaper than Mullvad.

Re: Latest Mozilla VPN features

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> it seems to be one of the only ways to support the browser Is this the case? Is income from Mozilla VPN put toward Firefox development? If it is, that info should be front-and-centre; they'd have a lot more customers I think.

It supports Mozilla. Browser is pretty important, but they do other things like Rust. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Projects/Complete

"Mozilla" is a complicated entity, and quite a lot of their funds go toward projects unrelated to Firefox (to the chagrin of many Firefox users as much of the donor goodwill toward Mozilla Foundation as an entity comes from Firefox).

There may be some clues in their public accounts but I guess VPN is too new a product to appear their yet https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/foundation/annualreport/2019/

Re: Latest Mozilla VPN features

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> I genuinely don't understand what is the incentive for using Mozilla VPN? Supporting browser development instead of Mozilla Foundation. This way at least they pass through the hands of the organization that does the most important work. (Nothing against the other issues but right now the browser should be their top priority and I was massively annoyed when I found that donations towards the foundation couldn't be u…

> Supporting browser development instead of Mozilla Foundation. But is it going towards Browser development though? https://calpaterson.com/mozilla.html Or is it going towards executive salaries?

What do you suppose we do in the meantime then?

I have a hard time coming up with an alternative that isn't just playing the ball into the hands of Google so that they can kill ad blocking right away?

Re: Latest Mozilla VPN features

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post #104

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that demographic is huge. most people under 40 today have grown up watching the surveillance industry establish itself, and those with any consciousness of their own vulnerability want to take action to minimize their surface area. until recently that's been extremely difficult and technical, but now firefox with container extensions, adblockers, and a VPN are all easily approachable for the average person, and they'…

> that demographic is huge. I just asked "who knows what VPN means" in IM group of non tech savvy folks, most under 35. No one knows. Perhaps among us Firefox users that's different but certainly "most people under 40 today" wouldn't know even what VPN means.

Just about anybody that watches YouTube regularly knows what a VPN is. Even very mainstream, non-tech channels have been sponsored by VPN companies. It has died down a bit now, but it was insane for a while. A constant flow of sketchy VPN companies.

VPNs are heavily marketed to regular consumers these days. Mostly for region shifting or vague privacy/security benefits.

Re: Latest Mozilla VPN features

#177
post #132

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> A lot of consumers are interested in a quality VPN but wouldn't do this kind of research. In that case, they will probably use NordVPN or ProtonVPN

I used to use Mullvad, but a lot of their servers were blocked for shows my wife wanted to watch and even on Netflix. I've had much better luck with ProtonVPN for that reason.

Maybe ProtonVPN is one of the ones using their users residential IPs to route traffic. How else do you prevent Netflix enumerating all your IP addresses?

Re: Latest Mozilla VPN features

#178
post #74

I genuinely don't understand what is the incentive for using Mozilla VPN? I'm a Mozilla and Firefox fanboy, but this new product had me sceptical since the beginning. They literally bring nothing to the table except their brand name. They don't even do the server side, but just resell Mullvad's infrastructure with their brand. I'm already a Mullvad customer, and if I were to switch to Mozilla VPN: * It would not be a…

Easy steady revenue is not a bad thing. Fwiw, I'm considering switching just to show some support for Mozilla.

I suspect that if they get enough traction they'll roll their own. Until then reselling was a quick and simple way to get going.

Re: Latest Mozilla VPN features

#179

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If you're using mullvad you have likely already done a lot of research on which provider you want to use. A lot of consumers are interested in a quality VPN but wouldn't do this kind of research. Mozilla provide additional eyeballs and billing support, and mullvad provides the service itself. It's a mutually beneficial transaction. They're not in competition for your money, they're targeting different demographics.

> they're targeting different demographics This is the question though: who are these demographics? I know Mozilla likely have a lot more data on this than I, but who is using Firefox / interested enough in Mozilla to read their marketing & research their VPN offerings, but is simultaneously not someone who would research VPN providers in general / use Mullvad? What is this techie/non-techie interested/not-interested…

I often have a hard time convincing someone why Mullvad is better than PIA, NordVPN, etc, because they simply don't know what to look for in a good VPN.

At least I can point at Mozilla VPN and make an appeal to authority.

Re: Latest Mozilla VPN features

#180
post #74

I genuinely don't understand what is the incentive for using Mozilla VPN? I'm a Mozilla and Firefox fanboy, but this new product had me sceptical since the beginning. They literally bring nothing to the table except their brand name. They don't even do the server side, but just resell Mullvad's infrastructure with their brand. I'm already a Mullvad customer, and if I were to switch to Mozilla VPN: * It would not be a…

It's slightly cheaper than Mullvad, in the US. €5 is $5.88, and Mozilla is available for $5.00/month.
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