Live data from Hacker News

Latest Mozilla VPN features

blog.mozilla.org

111–120 of 184 posts

Re: Latest Mozilla VPN features

#111
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're correct that scummy, overselling advertisements make the whole VPN industry look bad, but Mozilla's VPN is provided by Mullvad, who doesn't engage in those sorts of advertisements. FWIW, I've looked into Mullvad and even had beers with some of their programmers (all of whom appeared to be Scandinavian anarchist/anti-authoritarian types) and I think Mozilla made an good choice with that partnership. (Of course,…

Mullvad is the bees knees. The cats meow.

A real humdinger

Re: Latest Mozilla VPN features

#112
post #105

From their website: > No logging of your network activity Does it mean I can torrent whatever I want? I mean, if there's a copyright notice, how're they going to know it was me?

Just use a private tracker site. Copyright and DMCA notices are a thing of the past if you are using private torrent groups and trackers.

Re: Latest Mozilla VPN features

#113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're using mullvad you have likely already done a lot of research on which provider you want to use. A lot of consumers are interested in a quality VPN but wouldn't do this kind of research. Mozilla provide additional eyeballs and billing support, and mullvad provides the service itself. It's a mutually beneficial transaction. They're not in competition for your money, they're targeting different demographics.

> they're targeting different demographics This is the question though: who are these demographics? I know Mozilla likely have a lot more data on this than I, but who is using Firefox / interested enough in Mozilla to read their marketing & research their VPN offerings, but is simultaneously not someone who would research VPN providers in general / use Mullvad? What is this techie/non-techie interested/not-interested…

I'm one of those incongruent persons. Being wary of many VPN services, I never committed to using one, although I really wanted to start. Of course, I am aware of Mullvad and I could still skip the intermediary. However, I trust Mozilla more, as I've been following them for so long.

It sounds funny, because I do acknowledge exactly what you're saying. I'm in tech, interested in using VPN for years. I researched some, but was put off if they would mishandle my data. In the end, it will be Mullvad who will be dealing with my data, after all. But now I kinda trust them more after Mozilla.

I know it sounds illogical, just explaining how I feel about this.

Re: Latest Mozilla VPN features

#114
post #73

I would prefer something a bit more granular than changing my device's network configuration and sending all of its traffic through the same VPN. Just because I want to watch a movie through a server in another country doesn't mean that I also want my video chat app or stock trading app to take the same detour. Since this is Mozilla, how about a Firefox extension that passes all Firefox traffic through a VPN, like To…

I completely agree with this. If Firefox worked this way, or even just some special tabs of it, that would be great. Brave has TOR tabs AFAIR. Also an easy to use app would be great that can manage other apps' network connections - some could be blocked, some could be redirected through a VPN, etc.

Re: Latest Mozilla VPN features

#115
post #74

I genuinely don't understand what is the incentive for using Mozilla VPN? I'm a Mozilla and Firefox fanboy, but this new product had me sceptical since the beginning. They literally bring nothing to the table except their brand name. They don't even do the server side, but just resell Mullvad's infrastructure with their brand. I'm already a Mullvad customer, and if I were to switch to Mozilla VPN: * It would not be a…

> It would not be available in my country (Germany) right away

You could use a VPN to make it look like you are in a supported country.

Re: Latest Mozilla VPN features

#116
post #74

I genuinely don't understand what is the incentive for using Mozilla VPN? I'm a Mozilla and Firefox fanboy, but this new product had me sceptical since the beginning. They literally bring nothing to the table except their brand name. They don't even do the server side, but just resell Mullvad's infrastructure with their brand. I'm already a Mullvad customer, and if I were to switch to Mozilla VPN: * It would not be a…

> They literally bring nothing to the table except their brand name.

Isn't it the most important thing for a VPN provider? You want a company that is privacy-conscious, not one that logs your traffic and sells it or open it to the various TLAs of the world.

Re: Latest Mozilla VPN features

#117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're using mullvad you have likely already done a lot of research on which provider you want to use. A lot of consumers are interested in a quality VPN but wouldn't do this kind of research. Mozilla provide additional eyeballs and billing support, and mullvad provides the service itself. It's a mutually beneficial transaction. They're not in competition for your money, they're targeting different demographics.

> A lot of consumers are interested in a quality VPN but wouldn't do this kind of research. In that case, they will probably use NordVPN or ProtonVPN

Wait, is NordVPN something an educated VPN consumer should not use? I switched from PIA after their acquisition, so now I'm wondering what I missed.

Re: Latest Mozilla VPN features

#118
post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they're targeting different demographics This is the question though: who are these demographics? I know Mozilla likely have a lot more data on this than I, but who is using Firefox / interested enough in Mozilla to read their marketing & research their VPN offerings, but is simultaneously not someone who would research VPN providers in general / use Mullvad? What is this techie/non-techie interested/not-interested…

that demographic is huge. most people under 40 today have grown up watching the surveillance industry establish itself, and those with any consciousness of their own vulnerability want to take action to minimize their surface area. until recently that's been extremely difficult and technical, but now firefox with container extensions, adblockers, and a VPN are all easily approachable for the average person, and they'…

> that demographic is huge.

I just asked "who knows what VPN means" in IM group of non tech savvy folks, most under 35. No one knows.

Perhaps among us Firefox users that's different but certainly "most people under 40 today" wouldn't know even what VPN means.

Re: Latest Mozilla VPN features

#119
post #112
post #105

From their website: > No logging of your network activity Does it mean I can torrent whatever I want? I mean, if there's a copyright notice, how're they going to know it was me?

Just use a private tracker site. Copyright and DMCA notices are a thing of the past if you are using private torrent groups and trackers.

I was just wondering how they'll respond to any copyright notices if they don't log network activity.

Re: Latest Mozilla VPN features

#120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A lot of consumers are interested in a quality VPN but wouldn't do this kind of research. In that case, they will probably use NordVPN or ProtonVPN

Wait, is NordVPN something an educated VPN consumer should not use? I switched from PIA after their acquisition, so now I'm wondering what I missed.

They had a pretty wicked breach (for nearly an entire year) a while back: https://nordvpn.com/blog/official-response-datacenter-breach..., and I've also heard their rather expansive marketing (the usual youtube personalities) brought up as a negative, but that one doesn't register much for me.
Post reply on HN