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People have never been china, talks like a china/CCP expert.
America should allow open immigration from Hong Kong for a year. China by all rights has a claim to the land. But the people who want freedom should have it and we should take them in.
If my friends are any indication, most would be hesitant to move to the US due to physical safety issues in American streets.
Anyway, the streets are fine.
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> Hong Kong has historically always been a part of "China", you could say it was "invaded" by the British and then the Japanese during WW2. Who cares about History? What matters is now and what people want now. If not, you could use that excuse "but X was always part of Y" to justify just about everything.
> Who cares about History? What matters is now History does matter. You cannot just invade a country, steal territory and then later say "it doesn't matter if this was once your territory, what matter is NOW and now I own it so get off my lawn". That's just not how it works. In terms of history Hong Kong belongs to China and only in super recent history it was "taken" by the British always with the arrangement that i…
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Why is the CCP "evil"? What have they done? You might disagree with the philosophy of their political party, but they are not invading other countries like we do, they don't torture innocent people who have never had a trial on Guantanamo Bay, they don't send drones over innocent villages ripping children and women into pieces over false claims of mass destruction weapons, they don't write offensive tweets like Ameri…
Ugh, please! If this ( https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55794071 ) is not a definition of evil, I don't know what is. Heinous crimes that go all the way to the CCP top .
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Taiwan will be a bigger deal geopolitically. PRC has no claim to Taiwan that's recognized by the broader international community (outside China's sphere of influence, anyway.) Under Westphalian rules Hong Kong is seen as an internal matter, but Taiwan would be a straight-up war. Plus it would absolutely wreck the semiconductor industry worldwide to lose TSMC.
> Taiwan would be a straight-up war That will be shortest war ever. If China does an embargo on Taiwan and encircles it, there's nothing that Taiwan could do in the long run. They will be forced to negotiate. And you can bet the US has no intention to intervene.
Chinese economy is also completely dependent on imports. US does not need sail its carriers to Taiwan, it needs to park half a dozen attack subs on Chinese trade routes. Same applies to Taiwanese program to build indigenous electric subs with help of Japan, once even few those are complete the equation changes completely.
PRC has no chance in hell for an amphibious landing operation in Taiwan. So this is going to take quite a while.
Having said that US resolve switches around every 4 years so given a proper timing they might sit it out. However there are some interesting consequences. Japan will test a nuclear weapon and a delivery system and commence crash manufacturing program to assemble an arsenal in matter of weeks. US will get kicked out from Okinawa and mainland Japan and most likely a containment alliance between India, Japan and Australia will become not just paper but more like NATO with Joint command, staff, plans etc. I wonder what Vietnam will do, lets hope for their sake they have a secret nuclear program.
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If my friends are any indication, most would be hesitant to move to the US due to physical safety issues in American streets.
Please don't believe in media sensationalism. Yes, covid brought us an increase in violence, but that was simply relative to numbers that have been declining for decades. I'm not saying that we shouldn't keep improving this in the US, but it's still an extremely safe place. Also, most of the physical violence in the US is restricted to specific cities or areas within larger cities which you should generally be able t…
*) Unless the media sensationalism is from the US media against China. What happens on US streets, regardless how awful it is, is always nothing, but as soon as a single person protests in Hong Kong it's a human tragedy.
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Taiwan will be a bigger deal geopolitically. PRC has no claim to Taiwan that's recognized by the broader international community (outside China's sphere of influence, anyway.) Under Westphalian rules Hong Kong is seen as an internal matter, but Taiwan would be a straight-up war. Plus it would absolutely wreck the semiconductor industry worldwide to lose TSMC.
> Taiwan would be a straight-up war That will be shortest war ever. If China does an embargo on Taiwan and encircles it, there's nothing that Taiwan could do in the long run. They will be forced to negotiate. And you can bet the US has no intention to intervene.
Taiwan is now building their own long range missiles to enable them to counter-attack strategic locations (marine bases etc) along the China mainland coast. A war would be devastating to China, both economically and to their military. Trying to actually invade Taiwan would incur huge loses considering how defensible Taiwan is. If Taiwan managed to weaken them, it's a real possibility that the US will step in to defend. And most likely China would have to back off if the US made anything resembling a serious threat. The US has stepped into global conflicts for far less. A war or embargo on Taiwan would be the biggest crisis in the international economy since the oil crisis of the 1970s.
I'm split on whether China would actually do this. I'm certain it'd be a huge mistake, but the CCP has no regard for what's reasonable outside of their own self-preservation. They are facing the biggest senior citizen boom in history, and they have really not built up their economy well enough to face it. They're getting stuck in an unfortunate situation where they want to move low-value manufacturing out of China to continue to grow. But they have not built up enough international trust to do high-value design and manufacturing for export. Not at a scale that'd support one billion people. It's possible that the CCP will make moves on Taiwan to drum up support and distract from a growing economic crisis. It might work, but the Chinese people are not stupid. They'd not be happy. I don't think a large peoples uprising is likely, but it could destabilize the party internally, shifting power from one faction to another. It'd be extremely destabilizing, and stability and economic prosperity is really the main thing that has built support for the CCP.
There's a small chance that it'd trigger some uprising in Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia and Hong Kong too.
That's what the CCP always does: invade, stick their tentacles into every possible crevice, cut off any avenues by which it might lose power, and begin tightening and strangling, over the screaming protests of the local people. They did it in Tibet, they're doing it in Xinjiang, they're doing it in Hong Kong. They plan to do the same thing in Taiwan.
I am also upset by the lack of elections, but looking at the US politics from Hong Kong, I see a lot of similarities. The attempts to silence and stigmatize opposition, to close opposition media outlets and deplatform them on social media, harassing advertisers to make sure they don't advertise with the opposition, and the media working with the government to promote some events or views and to bury some others — tha…
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If my friends are any indication, most would be hesitant to move to the US due to physical safety issues in American streets.
I had an coworker who lived in Israel. I mentioned that I’d love to visit, but was nervous due to violence/terrorism. She just snorted and said she felt the same way about coming to the US. We both realized that our fears were blown way out of proportion due to media sensationalism. Anyway, the streets are fine.
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Just let the HK people decide. You know thats not going to happen because noone wants to be Chinese. Even the fucking Chinese dont want to be Chinese.
It's really sad to see that even hacker news has now been plagued by sinophobic racism