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Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

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#111

Telegram has by far the best desktop experience from all messengers. Smallest memory footprint and snappy UI.

Recently I migrated off Whatsapp like many others and the Linux desktop experience is really good, in particular the performance of search impressed me. Compared to the Whatsapp Web client it is much faster. If I'm not mistaken it's a Qml + Qt app which is actually very pleasant to write. Not sure why not more stuff is built with it these days.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

#112

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Just out of curiosity, what kind of discussion do you have that require e2e? Myself I use TG extensively with friends, family, girlfriend and I think I've used secret chats once when the gf wanted to send a naughty photo. It's not that I don't have anything to hide, it's just I choose what to say according to the environment and I feel the features of telegram far outweigh the con of not having e2e at all times.

Can you send me a zip archive of all your chats? It would be fun for me to read and ok with you since you have nothing to hide. You can contact me here. If you don’t send me your chats then I assume you want privacy after all.

Ok, turns out he likes privacy after all. Don’t lie please.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

#113

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Oh no. No. “You have nothing to share.” E2e by default or GTFO. This isn’t about your secrets. It’s about making your regular discourse indistinguishable from secrets. There is no con to e2e, and many cons for snake oil/plaintext.

Actually, there are many cons to e2e, especially with bigger groups. I've read a lot about Signal's and Matrix's development and there are many problems that don't exist when sending data over a simple SSL connectiom to a server. For example: You have a group with 100 Members, do you encrtpy each message you send 99 times for each recipient? Not likely. So you use a send key that everyone else can decrypt. But then w…

From what i’ve read, whatsapp is doing just what youdescribed for group chat, and it’s working fine... now maybe you’re talking about groups with hundreds of people ?

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

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Can you send me a zip archive of all your chats? It would be fun for me to read and ok with you since you have nothing to hide. You can contact me here. If you don’t send me your chats then I assume you want privacy after all.

Not op, but what would you give him in return? Sending some random purist on the internet my personal texts is one thing. Sending it to the company promising secure communication, company which delivers the best convenience messaging UX in the whole fucking world without any ads... Well, if you can’t see the difference...

I think the argument here is that without e2ee, the chats are available to whoever pays enough (e.g. advertisers). So in return he will get some ads and sms spam.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

#116

Telegram has by far the best desktop experience from all messengers. Smallest memory footprint and snappy UI.

Recently I migrated off Whatsapp like many others and the Linux desktop experience is really good, in particular the performance of search impressed me. Compared to the Whatsapp Web client it is much faster. If I'm not mistaken it's a Qml + Qt app which is actually very pleasant to write. Not sure why not more stuff is built with it these days.

It's actually Qt-widgets if I am not completely mistaken. Also, the reason why not more companies do this is unfortunately cost, it's much easier and thus cheaper to just cobble together some electron trash.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

#117

Telegram has by far the best desktop experience from all messengers. Smallest memory footprint and snappy UI.

Their mobile app is fantastic as well.

Telegram truly has set a high bar for chat app UI/UX. I'm hoping something secure manages to a achieve that level as well.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

#118
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That is fair, the startup time takes forever.

The desktop app has managed to corrupt its database multiple times since I started using it a couple of months ago. Its really bad for an app to do that in this day and age, mind you. This is btrfs levels of bad.

I've had the same issue multiple times lately. It really wouldn't be so bad if Signal could resynchronize the messages, but here you have to restart from scratch every time.

I always found it very dissonant that all I hear coming from the Signal devs is "we know best, you know nothing" but then when it comes to a native client the only thing they manage to implement is a half-assed, bloated-yet-underfeatured electron client (which already suffered at least one significant security vulnerability I might add). If they were a little more open with their development policies they might not be in such an awkward situation right now.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

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post #76

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The desktop app has managed to corrupt its database multiple times since I started using it a couple of months ago. Its really bad for an app to do that in this day and age, mind you. This is btrfs levels of bad.

I've had the same issue multiple times lately. It really wouldn't be so bad if Signal could resynchronize the messages, but here you have to restart from scratch every time. I always found it very dissonant that all I hear coming from the Signal devs is "we know best, you know nothing" but then when it comes to a native client the only thing they manage to implement is a half-assed, bloated-yet-underfeatured electron…

This is exactly my sentiment. If the encryption is as potato as their UI then I simply don't buy the security claims.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

#120

Telegram has by far the best desktop experience from all messengers. Smallest memory footprint and snappy UI.

It would be of such niceness if telegram was fully end-2-end encryption.

The nice thing about TG, you can make your own custom client (without getting sued) and implement PGP over it; or whatever you want
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