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Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

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Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

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As a heavy discord user, its performance is just nothing compared to a native app (gtk etc). Its notably not native in performance

True, but it is acceptable rather than having a noticeable delay etc. which I observe in other apps.

I don't know - clicking links seem really sluggish in discord - both on Android and on my surface 4 pro. It's odd, clicking on an image link in a browser is instantaneous on either device.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

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This is what I would expect. Though Clubhouse is a novel idea, it's relatively easy for a plethora of social networks to implement something similar and immediately have the network effect of their already immense userbase. On Instagram/Youtube/Facebook people can already go live with video. I think we will very quickly see similar audio-rooms on these platforms.

> On Instagram/Youtube/Facebook people can already go live with video. I think we will very quickly see similar audio-rooms on these platforms. Exactly what happened to Slack being killed by Microsoft Teams, Meerkat killed by both Periscope (Twitter), Instagram Live. Snapchat suffered the same thing with Instagram Stories; but although they survived, user growth slowed. We will see lots of audio-rooms on IG, Facebook…

> Slack being killed by Microsoft Teams

The rumors of Slack demise are greatly exaggerated. Mostly by Microsoft.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

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Can you send me a zip archive of all your chats? It would be fun for me to read and ok with you since you have nothing to hide. You can contact me here. If you don’t send me your chats then I assume you want privacy after all.

Still waiting

Me too. It shouldn’t take this long!

Ps: hard drive image clones should also do the trick.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

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> That's an issue with your client and protocol, not with e2e That's issue with distributing the keys among multiple parties. > No shared history for group chats. > Same Exactly. What's e2e good for, if you give keys to the entity that does the archiving?

If you have 2 devices, one device can send messages to the other, all e2e encrypted. It's the same for group chats: if you are part of a chat, any participant can send you the history of the chat. All those issues are protocol-related. E2E only stipulates that the message can't be read between the two ends, it doesn't say you can't send a technical message for making a better UX.

Doesn't even have to send the full history of the chat, it can only send you the encryption key while the history is stored on the server.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

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I don't think this necessarily has to hold true (Discord for instance have implemented their apps really well), but in reality this holds true for most electron apps in my experience.

As a heavy discord user, its performance is just nothing compared to a native app (gtk etc). Its notably not native in performance

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Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

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Just out of curiosity, what kind of discussion do you have that require e2e? Myself I use TG extensively with friends, family, girlfriend and I think I've used secret chats once when the gf wanted to send a naughty photo. It's not that I don't have anything to hide, it's just I choose what to say according to the environment and I feel the features of telegram far outweigh the con of not having e2e at all times.

Can you send me a zip archive of all your chats? It would be fun for me to read and ok with you since you have nothing to hide. You can contact me here. If you don’t send me your chats then I assume you want privacy after all.

Not op, but what would you give him in return? Sending some random purist on the internet my personal texts is one thing.

Sending it to the company promising secure communication, company which delivers the best convenience messaging UX in the whole fucking world without any ads...

Well, if you can’t see the difference...

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

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post #87

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Can you send me a zip archive of all your chats? It would be fun for me to read and ok with you since you have nothing to hide. You can contact me here. If you don’t send me your chats then I assume you want privacy after all.

Not op, but what would you give him in return? Sending some random purist on the internet my personal texts is one thing. Sending it to the company promising secure communication, company which delivers the best convenience messaging UX in the whole fucking world without any ads... Well, if you can’t see the difference...

Don’t get me wrong, I love complete e2e!

I am choosing iMessage with complete e2e every time I can, but iMessage is iOS only and telegram is many years ahead in user convenience even from it.

You might as well continue pushing for pgp for secure email.

User convenience is not optional.

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