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Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

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Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

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More and more I appreciate Signal for what it is. A no nonsense (okay, stickers) messaging tool for people that know each other in real life. I hope it never changes into something "social".

I'm all for no-nonsense, but I'd qualify Signal as barebones in some regards. Two features that routinely annoy me: no way to synchronize previous messages when linking a new client, no way to change the spellchecker language in the desktop app.

I want Signal to succeed but I always hesitate to recommend it because it always feels like an early beta product to me, not something ready for prime time.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, but I can't get my family to switch if the UX is subpar.

How long ago did you use signal? The UX is on par with WhatsApp. In fact I've found tiny things that signal does better (it groups sending multiple pictures into on "album" message instead of sending one message per picture like WhatsApp) The only place I could agree WhatsApp has a significantly better UX is with backing up messages.

Signal on desktop is very slow. It's a very unpleasant experience.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

#24

Telegram has by far the best desktop experience from all messengers. Smallest memory footprint and snappy UI.

It would be of such niceness if telegram was fully end-2-end encryption.

what about being federated?

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

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post #20

I‘m hoping that messaging apps will add a feature that allows you to transcribe voice messages after you received them. I find it rather annoying to listen to five minutes of audio when I could read a message in less than a minute.

Or at least ffwd 2x 3x like YouTube does, this would be easier to implement.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

#26

I really like Telegram and these features but I don’t use it because they don’t have end2end encryption as default. Also you can’t create a secret group chat that you can start from your phone and continue from your Mac.

I think it would make it slightly more difficult for them to profit from the chats.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

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post #20

I‘m hoping that messaging apps will add a feature that allows you to transcribe voice messages after you received them. I find it rather annoying to listen to five minutes of audio when I could read a message in less than a minute.

It's will take some effort to use, but actually someone made Telegram bot to do exactly this: @transcriber_bot

It's open source, but works through Yandex Translation API:

https://github.com/charslab/TranscriberBot

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

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post #25
post #20

I‘m hoping that messaging apps will add a feature that allows you to transcribe voice messages after you received them. I find it rather annoying to listen to five minutes of audio when I could read a message in less than a minute.

Or at least ffwd 2x 3x like YouTube does, this would be easier to implement.

You can change the speed to 2x currently.

Re: Telegram: Voice Chats 2.0:Channels, Millions of Listeners, Recorded Chats

#29
Does anyone know any details about the engineering and design teams at Telegram? Encryption qualms aside, the UX and performance of Telegram is so far ahead of WhatsApp, Facebook and Signal that it's quite mindboggling.

Is there any reason why a behemoth like Facebook is unable to achieve similar levels of polish? Is it a cultural issue, bureaucracy or a fundamental difference in the attitudes of developers in Eastern Europe vs those in the United States?

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