Link says Government sent a "first signal of its intention", title says "UK to depart".
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UK to depart from GDPR
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#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have many British friends who were absolutely against this, I also know a former boss who was very public about his Brexit vote and like many of those who voted for it, will be too old to have to deal with the consequences of this decision. If anything I think it is rather unfair to hear people from other EU countries treating this process as something along the lines of 'suits them' and 'they've made their bed'. W…
I'm 24 and voted for brexit. In fact I campaigned for it and would do so again. It's really a very poor form to resort to the "dumb old racists voted for brexit hurr".
I have two sincere questions.
What were your reasons behind your decision? What economic class are your parents in?
Re: UK to depart from GDPR
#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean, 73% of the 18-24 and 62% of the 25-34 voted remain, whereas 60% of the 55+ voted leave. Statistically, it's a pretty valid point.
73% of 18-24 year olds say they voted remain, but did they actually show up? Also did they vote remain because it's cool or did they actually have some other reason?
> 73% of 18-24 year olds say they voted remain, but did they actually show up?
I haven't done the math, so I won't make assumptions, but I would bet the percentages from the polls roughly match up with the actual results from the referendum
> Also did they vote remain because it's cool or did they actually have some other reason?
That's an entirely different point, you're just moving the goalposts now. The question isn't whether young people were justified in voting remain, the question is did they vote remain.
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd suggest that there aren't any other benefits of the EU.
As a Brit living in it I would tend to disagree. By the way if you're a leaver I've been looking for someone to cover the additional costs you've voted to put on me, DM if interested.
Ah yes, the common myth that before the EU nobody could live in any other country which is now a constituent of the EU.
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I was pretty disappointed after living three years in Singapore and witnessing the uglier underbelly of the country that the UK decided that's what it wanted to become almost as soon as I got home. Moreover, they don't want to copy any of the successes - e.g. their public housing system or strict "you WILL go to prison if you overcharge" price controls on medical care. They just want the tax haven, deregulation, an u…
Healthcare is paid via taxes, so how does one overcharge it?
Healthcare is largely paid via a forced savings account, not via taxes. It's the same account you'd use to buy property, for instance.
The price controls also apply to medical tourism.
In theory this kind of thing should show up on those economic freedom indices but they're so enamored of Singapore's lavish aid to foreign investors that they tend to look past this stuff (especially since it mostly just applies to locals).
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
In terms of economy why not? The USA is equal in GDP to the entire EU, and it seems much more efficient to deal with them, an actual country, than 27 odd countries whom all have their own agenda and are masquerading as one country. Of course it's very fashionable on the internet to shit on brexit. "haha brits be dumb cus independent" - I can only imagine what sort of insecurity you're dealing with about your own coun…
I agree. I didn't vote for Brexit but it is hard to see how the pro-Brexit crowd haven't been vindicated with the vaccine roll out.
Why can't I upvote this?
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#177‚Meanwhile one of the architects of the GDPR, German MEP Axel Voss, last week called for the regulation to be updated to take into account developments such as blockchain technology...’
What does that have to do with personal data? Sounds like keyword stuffing
Re: UK to depart from GDPR
#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ah this is the best bit! Because many companies cater for a global audience, us Brits will STILL have to endure the stupid little popups AND we'll have no protection or recourse from privacy invasion! Can't wait! /s
I don't think you're right at all. The US is the dominant online market. China is second. Neither have the stupid popups, so why wouldn't the UK just get added to the list of 'places we don't need to show it'? Have you ever tried browsing many US news sites? They block the entire EU from even seeing their content. That's how much they care about their in-GDPR users. The idea that people cater to a global audience by…
Okay, fair point, they might just re-include the UK in whatever exclusion list they have and that'll be that. But since GDPR came into force, others have followed suit, several other countries have begun implementing similar legislation.
This is anecdata, so fair warning, but over the last year (at a guess) I've noticed many US sites, FAANG companies but also smaller sites too, all flashing cookie/data protection type popups at me where they didn't previously. I've assumed that's because they need to comply with the CCPA which came into force last year, though it's totally a guess. I suppose their geoIP tracking may've just improved and spotted I'm in a GDPR country.
When does this type of legislation reach a point of critical mass where the UK is simply behind the curve and most companies just show the popup by default?
From a development perspective, having a whitelist or varying set of conditions per country adds complexity, I could very easily see a development decision being made to use GDPR as the common denominator and just code once for that, knowing that'll cover the company globally. Sure if your business relies on tracking and serving ads, then you may accept the additional complexity to behave different for different countries, but it still becomes a development decision that didn't have to be made before, and it's one with diminishing returns as legislation on privacy tightens.
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#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Johnson doesn't believe in anything, except his personal interest and profit. > Others in that cabinet, however, really appear to be true believers. My impression is that they all have those same beliefs - their personal interest and profit.
Which is silly (silly on Bojo's part, I mean) to set the country on a path to economic decline and cultural irrelevance because why be a king of an impoverished country instead of being a citizen in an advanced economy? (Clarification: I'm exaggerating for rhetorical effect. The UK won't become impoverished or really stop being an advanced-economy, but it's still going to be far poorer (in a total GDP and PPP sense)…
Why is everyone so sure about your last paragraph? You could say the same for the EU block and even have more historical evidence of supranations falling apart.
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#180> "too many businesses and organisations are reluctant to use data – either because they don’t understand the rules or are afraid of inadvertently breaking them" This is a deeply depressing take if the conclusion is to scrap GDPR. Is this true for 'data' in the general sense, or actually only true in the murky cases where there's an opportunity to use and abuse our personal data. In my book, that implies that GDPR is…
I'm willing to bet that this:
>The UK has the freedom to strike its own partnerships, he said, and he would announce priority countries for data adequacy agreements shortly
will be an announcement that the US has adequate data protection.