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UK to depart from GDPR

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Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by Chris2048 »

arethuza wrote: post #130
noir_lord wrote: post #120

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I was strongly remain, 48% of us where, if the vote had been a year later it could quite easily have been 52/48 the other way. One wonders if remain had one if the leave campaign would have accepted "The vote was clear, put up with it and shut up". I completely understand why EU governments would be absolutely fed up with the UK government though. Sadly my generation (40 and younger) are going to have to live the con…

Nigel Farage made it clear that he wouldn't accept 52-48 as being decisive: "In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the Remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it." https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-3630668...

Farage could continue campaigning if he wishes, but its not up to him.

It's also apparent to me that the remain camp did keep fighting Brexit tooth & nail much like Farage might have, so I guess we have symmetry.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by arethuza »

tubularhells wrote: post #141
bb123 wrote: post #103

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Why is it inevitable that the UK will become like America? There are plenty of independent Algo-States that are nothing like it. Australia, New Zealand, Canada for example. This comment seems to be borne out spite more than any kind of logic.

Australia is very much like the US, and worse in many regards. You just have no idea about any of it.

I can recommend the Juice Media Honest Government Ads for just that topic!

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by SirHound »

callamdelaney wrote: post #136
spiderfarmer wrote: post #113

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Yes, "In terms of economy" why not. Just ignore every other benefit of the EU to make your case.

I'd suggest that there aren't any other benefits of the EU.

As a Brit living in it I would tend to disagree. By the way if you're a leaver I've been looking for someone to cover the additional costs you've voted to put on me, DM if interested.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

carmen_sandiego wrote: post #122
bb123 wrote: post #103

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Why is it inevitable that the UK will become like America? There are plenty of independent Algo-States that are nothing like it. Australia, New Zealand, Canada for example. This comment seems to be borne out spite more than any kind of logic.

I have no idea why but the EU/Brexit is one subject where HN comment quality falls apart. I would have assumed most people here are Americans, so not really emotionally invested in their 'side'. But this comment section is full of Twitter hot take type stuff.

The same thing happened with Trump, and American flashpoint politics more generally.

Note that it's morning in Europe, and as such there will be lots of British/European people around, for whom Brexit is a bigger deal.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by dataduck »

HugoDaniel wrote: post #54
lanevorockz wrote: post #23

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The EU as a political union exists a little over a decade, if anything the UK never adapted to it.

Mistaking the EU, the political union as an evolved form of the Rome treaty, with Euro, the coin. All that with the tone of absolute certainty and authority. Hacker News has reached new lows :(

Come on, that's not fair. The EEC was a very different beast to today's EU. The modern form of the EU could certainly be argued as starting with the Treaty of Lisbon.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

HugoDaniel wrote: post #54
lanevorockz wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The EU as a political union exists a little over a decade, if anything the UK never adapted to it.

Mistaking the EU, the political union as an evolved form of the Rome treaty, with Euro, the coin. All that with the tone of absolute certainty and authority. Hacker News has reached new lows :(

That's one of the issues on the internet nowadays; people use their soapbox to present a thought as fact. Even if they're being called out on it and proven wrong, the statement is made and a seed is planted in someone's brain.

It's like newspaper headlines that say X, but (have to) nuance it in the article itself. Except that Twitter doesn't support articles, so it's only headlines.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by Chris2048 »

user-the-name wrote: post #132
krageon wrote: post #108

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> a large chunk of them have pretty much not agreed Yes, but a far larger chunk has. Every country gets the leaders it deserves and the UK is no exception.

Not really. 37% of the electorate at the time voted for Brexit. The rest have not really "agreed" to it. Also, since then, many people have come of age who did not get to vote in the election.

I didn't get to vote in the original election to join the EU, so can we re-run that one too?

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by bb123 »

carmen_sandiego wrote: post #122
bb123 wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it inevitable that the UK will become like America? There are plenty of independent Algo-States that are nothing like it. Australia, New Zealand, Canada for example. This comment seems to be borne out spite more than any kind of logic.

I have no idea why but the EU/Brexit is one subject where HN comment quality falls apart. I would have assumed most people here are Americans, so not really emotionally invested in their 'side'. But this comment section is full of Twitter hot take type stuff.

I think given the timezone difference, most people on here this time of day are probably in the UK/Europe. I guess the emotive nature of the subject is showing through.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by SirHound »

bb123 wrote: post #116
callamdelaney wrote: post #100

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In terms of economy why not? The USA is equal in GDP to the entire EU, and it seems much more efficient to deal with them, an actual country, than 27 odd countries whom all have their own agenda and are masquerading as one country. Of course it's very fashionable on the internet to shit on brexit. "haha brits be dumb cus independent" - I can only imagine what sort of insecurity you're dealing with about your own coun…

I agree. I didn't vote for Brexit but it is hard to see how the pro-Brexit crowd haven't been vindicated with the vaccine roll out.

We wouldn't have been required to join the EU for the vaccine scheme if we were a member, and were offered to join when we weren't. So I don't see how it is relevant.
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