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Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#91

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Yeah we saw the mighty EU negotiation leverage with COVID vaccine... UK market is large enough to stand on it's own and EU has been grossly incompetent in public for a while now. There's going to be downsides for sure but becoming "America like" is not going to be one of them.

You're cherry picking.

It is a huge cherry though, and I believe we're yet to see the full economic effect of EU lagging behind US and UK in vaccinations.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#92
Huh. I guess this'll be what pushes me to finally figure out a proper backup system for my server, so I can trust it with all my photos etc, and remove them from "The Cloud"

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#93

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It's unclear whether the 'they' you refer to are the British people, or the class of ruling individuals who know exactly what they're doing and are set to profit immensely. (I'm aware that all sounds quite America-like already)

> or the class of ruling individuals who know exactly what they're doing and are set to profit immensely. I'm really not sure about that. I agree that may be the case with some of those ruling individuals. My impression is that Johnson doesn't believe in anything, except his personal interest and profit. Others in that cabinet, however, really appear to be true believers.

> Johnson doesn't believe in anything, except his personal interest and profit.

> Others in that cabinet, however, really appear to be true believers.

My impression is that they all have those same beliefs - their personal interest and profit.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#94

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Who said they're becoming America-like. More like Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, etc. like.

Not even - we will become a right wing basket case with a brand new nuclear weapons system and a failing economy and zero safeguards about those in power. This lot are bad but there is the possibility of something much much worse.

Clearly there are only two possibilities. Being in the EU or being a "a right wing basket case with a brand new nuclear weapons system and a failing economy and zero safeguards about those in power". There are no other types of country.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#95
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For me the biggest flaw of GDPR that it does not distinguish between something done as a business to make money and something done non-profit, as a hobby project, etc. GDPR killed forums, etc. everything moved to Facebook groups, where people agree to whatever Facebook wants. Who will create forum for a community if one has to deal with all the bureaucracy, "right to be forgotten", data accuracy checks, data export r…

What kind of personal data do you need to store for a forum ? For what purpose ?

> Who will create forum for a community if one has to deal with all the bureaucracy, "right to be forgotten"

Most forums are created with softwares handling everything, virtually nobody creates a forum from scratch with his own tech stack.

> If kids leave they clothes in kindergarten or school, can clothes be signed with kid first and last name (so it is easier to find lost items)? Is school a processor or controller of kids' PII in that case?

People asking these kind of questions are either trolling or making their life much harder than necessary.... The text is pretty simple if you read it in good faith and don't act like a 6th grader who doesn't want to do his homework and pretend he doesn't understand the question...

Do you think GDPR is aimed at facebook &co storing millions of users data without the immediate business need nor the consent for it ? or at kindergarten kids who have their name written on their clothes ?

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#96

This feels like one of those things where Post-Brexit-Britain simply HAS to do something different. Just for the sake of it. Sovereignty and all that. The fact that many online businesses will probably still cater to EU citizens and will therefore still follow GDPR rules doesn't matter. Those companies will end up with two slightly different sets of rules and it will just be annoying.

The problem becomes one of enforcement.

If you're an online business established outside of the EU with no presence in the EU then as long as you abide by the data protection laws of your own country I don't see how an EU country's data protection authority could do anything to you.

This is a general issue online where sites and potentially services can be reached and used globally whilst each country basically cannot do anything outside of its own borders.

The part of the GDPR that says that the regs apply worldwide as long as the individual is in the EU is not really realistic in many actual situations.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#97

I hope the UK follows through with its 'Singapore-on-Thames' plan, which requiring losing regulatory harmonization with the EU: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore-on-Thames

I was pretty disappointed after living three years in Singapore and witnessing the uglier underbelly of the country that the UK decided that's what it wanted to become almost as soon as I got home.

Moreover, they don't want to copy any of the successes - e.g. their public housing system or strict "you WILL go to prison if you overcharge" price controls on medical care.

They just want the tax haven, deregulation, an under the thumb easily exploited workforce working themselves half to death and handouts to their friends.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#98

I somewhat miss the days when the corruption was at least somewhat veiled. No-no of course we don't want to sell your data for profit, that would be ridiculous. Clearly it is just our corporate sponsors who will be doing it for us!

Money has become the main objective, and it's poisoning us. Money is a means to an end, not the end itself.

The nation (any country) needs to have human goals - not economical goals for their own sake - but a better life for us, for us all.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#99

I somewhat miss the days when the corruption was at least somewhat veiled. No-no of course we don't want to sell your data for profit, that would be ridiculous. Clearly it is just our corporate sponsors who will be doing it for us!

> I somewhat miss the days when the corruption was at least somewhat veiled.

Oh, nonsense. People disagree with you politically. That doesn't make it 'unveiled corruption'. What a lazy way to think.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

#100

I honestly get giggles from how unprepared they are culturally for what becoming America-like will do to them. Does anyone else? American-like but with no negotiating leverage and having burned all the bridges to the other economic unions.

In terms of economy why not? The USA is equal in GDP to the entire EU, and it seems much more efficient to deal with them, an actual country, than 27 odd countries whom all have their own agenda and are masquerading as one country.

Of course it's very fashionable on the internet to shit on brexit. "haha brits be dumb cus independent" - I can only imagine what sort of insecurity you're dealing with about your own country that you have to resort to this.

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