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UK to depart from GDPR

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Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by Chris2048 »

callamdelaney wrote: post #109
DoingIsLearning wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have many British friends who were absolutely against this, I also know a former boss who was very public about his Brexit vote and like many of those who voted for it, will be too old to have to deal with the consequences of this decision. If anything I think it is rather unfair to hear people from other EU countries treating this process as something along the lines of 'suits them' and 'they've made their bed'. W…

I'm 24 and voted for brexit. In fact I campaigned for it and would do so again. It's really a very poor form to resort to the "dumb old racists voted for brexit hurr".

This isn't the racist angle, It's the angle where the "consequences" are the only worthy consideration.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by user-the-name »

krageon wrote: post #108
DoingIsLearning wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have many British friends who were absolutely against this, I also know a former boss who was very public about his Brexit vote and like many of those who voted for it, will be too old to have to deal with the consequences of this decision. If anything I think it is rather unfair to hear people from other EU countries treating this process as something along the lines of 'suits them' and 'they've made their bed'. W…

> a large chunk of them have pretty much not agreed Yes, but a far larger chunk has. Every country gets the leaders it deserves and the UK is no exception.

Not really. 37% of the electorate at the time voted for Brexit. The rest have not really "agreed" to it. Also, since then, many people have come of age who did not get to vote in the election.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by dbetteridge »

carmen_sandiego wrote: post #99
dbetteridge wrote: post #8

I somewhat miss the days when the corruption was at least somewhat veiled. No-no of course we don't want to sell your data for profit, that would be ridiculous. Clearly it is just our corporate sponsors who will be doing it for us!

> I somewhat miss the days when the corruption was at least somewhat veiled. Oh, nonsense. People disagree with you politically. That doesn't make it 'unveiled corruption'. What a lazy way to think.

I can handle political disagreement just fine.

But there is a systemic and widely recognised issue in the UK with the government flagrantly handing out public money without due diligence or fair recourse.

Selling citizens data for profit is just another data point.

https://medium.com/shit-britain/the-bumper-uk-conservative-g...

https://thejist.co.uk/politics/a-list-of-alleged-conservativ...

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/how-the-tories-no...

https://sophieehill.shinyapps.io/my-little-crony/

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by Eszik »

callamdelaney wrote: post #109
DoingIsLearning wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have many British friends who were absolutely against this, I also know a former boss who was very public about his Brexit vote and like many of those who voted for it, will be too old to have to deal with the consequences of this decision. If anything I think it is rather unfair to hear people from other EU countries treating this process as something along the lines of 'suits them' and 'they've made their bed'. W…

I'm 24 and voted for brexit. In fact I campaigned for it and would do so again. It's really a very poor form to resort to the "dumb old racists voted for brexit hurr".

I mean, 73% of the 18-24 and 62% of the 25-34 voted remain, whereas 60% of the 55+ voted leave. Statistically, it's a pretty valid point.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by krageon »

rich_sasha wrote: post #4

I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I think GDPR is a great step towards stopping companies hoarding your data and holding you hostage to it. On the other, main GDPR change is those awful 'hand over data / pretend you're not' dialogue boxes. When I'm feeling strong, I look for the 'reject / object / blah' box, but often I don't find it in me to resist anymore. So maybe it's not awful they're reshaping…

> often I don't find it in me to resist anymore.

All you need to do is not say yes. The easiest way to do this is filter cookiebars/walls/whatever in as many places as you can. Without an answer, the answer is no.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by callamdelaney »

spiderfarmer wrote: post #113
callamdelaney wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In terms of economy why not? The USA is equal in GDP to the entire EU, and it seems much more efficient to deal with them, an actual country, than 27 odd countries whom all have their own agenda and are masquerading as one country. Of course it's very fashionable on the internet to shit on brexit. "haha brits be dumb cus independent" - I can only imagine what sort of insecurity you're dealing with about your own coun…

Yes, "In terms of economy" why not. Just ignore every other benefit of the EU to make your case.

I'd suggest that there aren't any other benefits of the EU.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

cassianoleal wrote: post #93
CaptainZapp wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> or the class of ruling individuals who know exactly what they're doing and are set to profit immensely. I'm really not sure about that. I agree that may be the case with some of those ruling individuals. My impression is that Johnson doesn't believe in anything, except his personal interest and profit. Others in that cabinet, however, really appear to be true believers.

> Johnson doesn't believe in anything, except his personal interest and profit. > Others in that cabinet, however, really appear to be true believers. My impression is that they all have those same beliefs - their personal interest and profit.

Which is silly (silly on Bojo's part, I mean) to set the country on a path to economic decline and cultural irrelevance because why be a king of an impoverished country instead of being a citizen in an advanced economy?

(Clarification: I'm exaggerating for rhetorical effect. The UK won't become impoverished or really stop being an advanced-economy, but it's still going to be far poorer (in a total GDP and PPP sense) than it would be had this whole Brexit business never happened.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by carmen_sandiego »

andy_ppp wrote: post #121
carmen_sandiego wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clearly there are only two possibilities. Being in the EU or being a "a right wing basket case with a brand new nuclear weapons system and a failing economy and zero safeguards about those in power". There are no other types of country.

I wasn't clear in my comment - I think the decision making to avoid compliance with the EU (even when it is sensible) is going to cause big problems for the UK economy and if that get's really bad the public seem determined to vote for more and more right wing governments out of fear. I think it's a reasonable concern with the lack of safeguards in the British system of government.

I think you're being a bit sensationalist. E.g. people mock 'Singapore on Thames' but do you really think Singapore is a right-wing hellscape? It has many of the same systems the UK does.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by Nextgrid »

ur-whale wrote: post #56

> UK to depart from GDPR Good for them. Looks like in the UK there will be a lot less time wasting clicking on useless "Accept all cookies or else" disclaimers pop-ups.

These useless pop-ups are only there because the GDPR wasn't enforced properly. The majority of tracking consent popups you see are not compliant with the regulation. A compliant pop-up should make the opt-out option as easy to use as the opt-in option.

Re: UK to depart from GDPR

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Post by user-the-name »

lanevorockz wrote: post #34
dbetteridge wrote: post #8

I somewhat miss the days when the corruption was at least somewhat veiled. No-no of course we don't want to sell your data for profit, that would be ridiculous. Clearly it is just our corporate sponsors who will be doing it for us!

Yep, never heard of corruption in Italy before. The Mafia was created just a year ago right after Brexit

Why are you talking about Italy?
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