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Why You Should Take Any Vaccine
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#32I'm young and healthy, with less than 0.4% risks of dying, so I think I'll pass for the time being, and leave my dose to those who want it.
I'm super happy to give it to them, as I want as many people vaccinated to protect me (herd immunity) without being vaccinated myself to avoid the rare risk of side effects that will be known better in a year or two from now.
Yeah, I'm selfish. And no, I don't care about people possibly dying. They should get vaccinated! They should take any vaccine!
Actually, I wish I could resell the dose the government wants to give me to someone from a country that doesn't have enough vaccine, like on ebay.
Unfortunately, in my experience, it doesn't work: I tried to do that before during the H1N1 scare with the help of friends and the parcels didn't reach the buyers.
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#33I'm young and healthy, with less than 0.4% risks of dying, so I think I'll pass for the time being, and leave my dose to those who want it. I'm super happy to give it to them, as I want as many people vaccinated to protect me (herd immunity) without being vaccinated myself to avoid the rare risk of side effects that will be known better in a year or two from now. Yeah, I'm selfish. And no, I don't care about people p…
Just to make sure I understand - you tried to resell the H1N1 vaccine?
Re: Why You Should Take Any Vaccine
#34I'm young and healthy, with less than 0.4% risks of dying, so I think I'll pass for the time being, and leave my dose to those who want it. I'm super happy to give it to them, as I want as many people vaccinated to protect me (herd immunity) without being vaccinated myself to avoid the rare risk of side effects that will be known better in a year or two from now. Yeah, I'm selfish. And no, I don't care about people p…
Just to make sure I understand - you tried to resell the H1N1 vaccine?
Yes, back in 2009, I was a student and I thought "easy money!" :)
It was in very high demand, and I could get some, so I figured, let the great material continuum provide to those who need it and have the money to pay for our efforts!
Unfortunately the customs hassled the customers for paperwork (the health market is so overregulated!) who then hassled me.
I was just in for a quick buck, and the vaccines were legit with all the barcodes and stuff, new in a manufacturer box, still sealed, so I didn't understand why!
Still, I did a few rounds giving the required documentation each time, until I realized the customs agents were just finding excuses to block the parcels, and more likely to keep the content for themselves or their family instead of my clients who had paid for it, or maybe for reselling themselves, as one dose was reselling for over 400 in some markets! So I gave up and issued refunds, even if it was not my fault that the parcel didn't reach the customers.
I should have lied about the content! Little did I know back then, I was young and naive and I thought the laws in the West meant something.
Still, it taught me some good lessons: don't deal with physical goods whenever possible! Don't deal with stuff that's full of regulations!
In a way, it helped define me, as the next schoolyear I got into crypto.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
23 in Norway as well in one elderly home. https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n149
In the US, we're administering the mRNA vaccines exclusively (J&J is just now rolling out) and we're prioritizing nursing homes. We've administered 78 million doses. Why aren't we seeing similar events here? Supposedly, the most trustworthy stat we have is deaths. Deaths in assisted living homes are plummeting .
Out of curiosity, do you also believe the official number of Chinese cases, which is around 89,000?
Or to answer your question directly, I believe the media isn't reporting them. Just like they don't want to report Cuomo, along with governors in multiple states, knowingly stuffed nursing homes with covid cases. It all comes out eventually, but right now is the "fog of war" so to speak. We won't hear about the deaths caused by the shot until later.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Children's Health Defense is an American 501c3 nonprofit advocacy organization,[1] known for its anti-vaccine activism. According to Seth Mnookin, much of the material put forth by the organization involves misinformation on vaccines and anti-vaccine propaganda.[2] It was founded and is chaired by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.[3] Established under the name World Mercury Project in 2016, it has been campaigning against vario…
You know, if even the Catholic bishops aren't accusing it of this side effect fraught as they are with concern for child and fetal welfare I think GP needs to consider their position.
Catholic Bishops are concerned about the Johnston and Johnston vaccine because it was made with aborted fetal cells. So there is an ethic concern with Catholics on the Johnston and Johnston vaccine. Not the other vaccines though.
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#37I feel like if anybody wanted to apply critical thinking they were immediately called an anti vaxer. I think people should always question everything. And since the science and research is valid I think most people come to the conclusion that it’s fine.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tim and Sonia are not part of the trials being talked about
>Since the beginning of the trials, all trials, there has not been a single death or hospitalization among people vaccinated. The statement clearly says, since the date when trials began, there have been no deaths among all people who received the shot. This is obviously an untrue statement and misinformation.
I'll just say that is a very strange reading of the sentence. There's really no where to go with this exchange if we can't even agree on that.
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#39I will say if you get the Moderna, that second shot is seriously painful. We had a pretty universal pain in the arm followed by chills followed by hot flashes then a day of feeling like you are walking through water. It was two days of crud. If you have a choice get Pfizer instead. The people taking that don't seem to suffer.
I'm all for anecdotes, but the side effect rate for moderna is known. And I know several people who have gotten it and no one has complained of side effects.
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#40I will say if you get the Moderna, that second shot is seriously painful. We had a pretty universal pain in the arm followed by chills followed by hot flashes then a day of feeling like you are walking through water. It was two days of crud. If you have a choice get Pfizer instead. The people taking that don't seem to suffer.
I've to counter your anecdata with mine. It's the same with Pfizer.
Second shot can create adverse reactions. I know people who got flue-like symptoms (headache, muscular pain, increased temperature) for a day.
Amongst doctors it is very common. Prior exposure to covid-19 is suspected to be a contributing factor.
Still, it's better than the alternative: not being immunised and a possible patient/transmission vector.