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Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by throwawei369 »

o_p wrote: post #285
throwawei369 wrote: post #149

This increase of extreme assault on free-speech platforms should be worrying to everyone. Not too long ago, we were hailing the "internet" as a free fair space. Now it is a free fair space ... for everyone but some kind of people. I'm for free speech but this specific kind of targeted attacks is getting out of hand.

The free speech of facsists shouldnt be protected, Im glad there are hackers doing the right thing

Last I checked it's not illegal to be a fascist. Hacking computer systems and stealing data however is illegal. Whether this is right or wrong is debatable. Free speech shouldn't be.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by IfOnlyYouKnew »

Bostonian wrote: post #2

At Ars Technica, few of the commenters are concerned about the erosion of privacy and freedom of speech of Gab users.

At Hacker News, the people concerned about "cancel culture" were, somehow, never concerned about the erosion of privacy and freedom of speech of ISIS. Or just ordinary muslims. Or Sikh that look like muslims to idiots. Or the forever-ban of nipples. Or the freedom of speech of members of House and Senate, typically exercised without gallows waiting for them outside. Or the victims of whaterever-the-fuck #gamergate was.

The sloganeering about "freedom of speech" or "cancel culture" has, at this point, really run its course and it's completely obvious that it is but a thin veneer over opinions that, for now, cannot be stated in polite company.

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Post by input_sh »

Veen wrote: post #318
input_sh wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who called him a fascist?

While they may not call him a fascist outright—it would be indelicate considering his Jewish ancestry—there are plenty on the left who consider Pinker's thinking a sort of gateway drug to fascism. https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/steven-pinker-jordan-peters...

Those two claims are vastly different, aren't they?

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by FDSGSG »

xahrepap wrote: post #121
asabjorn wrote: post #106

As much as I love open source, Gab should have never been open source. It seems very unwise to make a highly targeted free speech social media platform available for easy backend code analysis. No wonder they were hacked. https://git.rip/gab/gab-social

I don’t believe that Open Source == Less Secure. See also: Linux, Ngix, Postgres... Many many open source projects are secure. They’re not perfect but an argument could be made that they’re more secure BECAUSE they’re open. Software with crosshairs on its back practicing garbage security practices will be pwnd the same regardless of it’s open-ness. Honestly. With a lot of the tools out there these days. I question if…

How is Linux supposed to be a good example of a secure open source project?

I'm not really convinced by Postgres either, software like that inherently exposes very little attack surface unless the attackers already have access. Nobody is interested in exploiting Postgres.

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Post by brigandish »

exporectomy wrote: post #212
lwansbrough wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Conservativism largely fails over time in the free marketplace of ideas as evidence by human progress and societal change. Conservativism is fundamentally about suppressing change in favour of familiarity and established norms, which could certainly be seen as censorship. An obvious example of this is the conservative/Puritan influence in American culture, which has lead to excessive censorship of sexual content and…

Counterexample - Islamic culture is conservative and thriving in the world (20% of all humans are Muslim), with roughly the same beliefs and culture as it's had for the past 1000 years.

It'd be hard to make a monolith out of the beliefs, practices and behaviour of over a billion people even if you could boil some of it down into one book (and you can't even do that as even the Sunni majority uses at least 7).

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Post by vkou »

cmeacham98 wrote: post #4
ignoranceprior wrote: post #3

Can someone explain the difference between Gab and Parler to someone unfamiliar with both?

Parler is basically a direct clone of twitter's basic features. They use different names but have features similar to that of Twitter's tweet/like/retweet. Gab's current iteration is a mastodon fork (although iirc they don't participate in the fediverse via activitypub). Gab is similar to Twitter like Parler but is less of a direct clone, offering other features Twitter doesn't have. Gab has been along for longer and…

> "you can say anything that is not directly illegal in the US without fear of being banned or other moderation"

Parler was happily banning leftist viewpoints.

It's raison d'etre was not so much 'you can say anything that's not directly illegal', and more 'you can say anything that the far right approves of' (Some of which, most notably the death threats cited by AWS, also happens to be directly ilelgal.)

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Post by vkou »

nix23 wrote: post #307
_r0fz wrote: post #271

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Tech's obsession with hating on Gab/Parler is based upon on the identity of the people in them Correct. We hate nazis.

Isn't it beautiful how the American and western society's rips itself apart? Man vs Women, Woman vs Trans, Gay vs Lesbians, White vs Black..oh sorry i mean People of no Color vs People of Color, Democrats vs Republicans and so on...zero consensus on each side what our society should be. It's like the KGB wins the cold war after all...with a small delay. Yuri Bezmenov: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX3EZCVj2XA https…

White vs Black was something that was ripping the United States apart since the arrival of the first slave on the continent, so I'd have a hard time crediting the KGB for it.

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Post by oooooooooooow »

colesantiago wrote: post #302
jl6 wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because I think that mainstream trans people are done a great disservice by trans extremists. Do you think trans people benefit from being associated with the kind of tweets on that website? Reasonable trans men and trans women are pushing back on extremist language and calls for violence that are perpetrated in their name. Only by discussing this can peaceful coexistence be achieved.

You're right when it comes to calls to violence, but I would prefer #DieT*rfs or #T*rfsMustDie instead. At least then freedom of speech is preserved and are is no calls for violence. > Only by discussing this can peaceful coexistence be achieved. Would love to see evidence of this and until then, please go tell that to the exclusionary T*rfs FIRST and NOT trans people fighting against them. Be a trans ally.

This is part of the reason why a sizeable portion of the population sees you as a cult of lunatics.

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Post by Tycho »

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #81
Bostonian wrote: post #2

At Ars Technica, few of the commenters are concerned about the erosion of privacy and freedom of speech of Gab users.

First they came for the fascists, and I was happy. Then it ended, because slippery slope is a fallacy.

“Slippery slope” is not a “fallacy”.

Is there a name for the fallacy where people think just because a type of argument has a name then it must be a fallacy?

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Post by goatinaboat »

feralimal wrote: post #191
feralimal wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Stalin and Mao were communists.

Stalin and Mao were communists.

Marx used the terms socialist and communist interchangeably in his writings. So that is a distinction without a difference.

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