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Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by _r0fz »

abernard1 wrote: post #267
gizmo686 wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Adverse selection. If your differenciating feature is "you can say what you want without getting banned", your userbase is going to tend towards people who get banned on other platforms. In todays climate, that is mostly the far right. Compounding this is PR and network effects. Once they become known as the place for the far right, then more far righters go there, and more distant people avoid it.

> Adverse selection. If your differenciating feature is "you can say what you want without getting banned", your userbase is going to tend towards people who get banned on other platforms. In todays climate, that is mostly the far right. And in Hong Kong, it's anti-CCP protestors. In Iran, it is opponents of the theocracy. We can play this game all day. Tech's obsession with hating on Gab/Parler is based upon on the…

> Tech's obsession with hating on Gab/Parler is based upon on the identity of the people in them

Correct. We hate nazis.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by kukx »

jordigh wrote: post #133
mikepost001 wrote: post #17

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"you can say anything that is not directly illegal in the US without fear of being banned or other mode“ For a non-American, could you explain how this is far right? Sounds pretty liberal.

Because the only defense they constantly employ for saying atrocious things is that it's not literally illegal to say them. It's not literally illegal to be racist, it's not literally illegal to be xenophobic, it's not literally illegal to be transphobic. So they think they should be all those things, although they don't call themselves those names. Things should be said based on the inherent merit of what they say,…

And a religious person would say that we should follow ten commandments. Should we make it illegal not to follow them? Should we move toward punishing the sinners by law? I am against immoral behavior but it does not mean I am for banning speach and art, quite the opposite. The Christian culture is crumbling and is being slowly replaced by a more repressive one. And it is worrisome to say the least.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by cies »

wp381640 wrote: post #224
cmeacham98 wrote: post #4

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Parler is basically a direct clone of twitter's basic features. They use different names but have features similar to that of Twitter's tweet/like/retweet. Gab's current iteration is a mastodon fork (although iirc they don't participate in the fediverse via activitypub). Gab is similar to Twitter like Parler but is less of a direct clone, offering other features Twitter doesn't have. Gab has been along for longer and…

> "you can say anything that is not directly illegal in the US without fear of being banned or other moderation". That's not right at all. They both ban adult content and Gab will ban blasphemy. They also frequently remove drug content. They're stricter on banning speech than Twitter and the sites they fled from.

> you can say anything that is not directly illegal in the US [or frowned upon by what we* believe God would frown upon] without fear of being banned or other moderation

it's not censorship when you like it!

*) we = right leaning americans

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by kuschku »

asabjorn wrote: post #144
spideymans wrote: post #129

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If you’re depending on the confidentiality of your source code to keep your system secure, then your system was never secure in the first place.

That is not a fair assertion, as source confidentiality to limit wide-spread computerized and manual inspection of backend code to find flaws is just one of many tools to mitigate attacks. For instance, in this case a group with sufficient security research skills politically opposed to some of the gab users seem to have utilized the source-code to find a vulnerability the Gab team had not discovered yet.

Not just one vulnerability, gab's CTO replaced every activerecord and stored procedure SQL call he could find with a string substitution based raw query (without any escaping or anything)

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by abernard1 »

_r0fz wrote: post #271
abernard1 wrote: post #267

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> Adverse selection. If your differenciating feature is "you can say what you want without getting banned", your userbase is going to tend towards people who get banned on other platforms. In todays climate, that is mostly the far right. And in Hong Kong, it's anti-CCP protestors. In Iran, it is opponents of the theocracy. We can play this game all day. Tech's obsession with hating on Gab/Parler is based upon on the…

> Tech's obsession with hating on Gab/Parler is based upon on the identity of the people in them Correct. We hate nazis.

> Correct. We hate nazis.

If you believe there are 10s of millions of Nazis in America, you have issues.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by input_sh »

Acrobatic_Road wrote: post #122
IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #81

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First they came for the fascists, and I was happy. Then it ended, because slippery slope is a fallacy.

When they come for you, they'll call you a fascist. Like they did with Steven Pinker.

Who called him a fascist?

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by wokwokwok »

abernard1 wrote: post #267
gizmo686 wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Adverse selection. If your differenciating feature is "you can say what you want without getting banned", your userbase is going to tend towards people who get banned on other platforms. In todays climate, that is mostly the far right. Compounding this is PR and network effects. Once they become known as the place for the far right, then more far righters go there, and more distant people avoid it.

> Adverse selection. If your differenciating feature is "you can say what you want without getting banned", your userbase is going to tend towards people who get banned on other platforms. In todays climate, that is mostly the far right. And in Hong Kong, it's anti-CCP protestors. In Iran, it is opponents of the theocracy. We can play this game all day. Tech's obsession with hating on Gab/Parler is based upon on the…

What point are you making?

Those are the “far right” (or “far left” depending on your views) in those contexts.

The point remains: extreme views will gravitate to these platforms.

That is “far right”.

If you don’t prefer that title call it “extremist views”; it’s irrelevant what you label it; the point remains entirely valid.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by o_p »

industriousthou wrote: post #185
asabjorn wrote: post #143

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It is way easier to find a software vulnerability in a backend you have the code for, instead of probing a black-box backend for vulnerabilities. For instance, you can use static analysis tools to discover vulnerabilities.

So way more people are able to identify those vulnerabilities and fix them?

Sure, after they stole your data already

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by leereeves »

scrose wrote: post #264
feralimal wrote: post #183

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The Nazis were socialist only in name. I highly suggest reading at least the first book in Richard J. Evans’s trilogy on ‘The third Reich’ if you want your eyes opened to unbiased historical facts. Referring to names to determine the leaning of a political party or even community groups is never a good idea. Look at their policies and what their people are saying.

Absolutely, look into it. Mixed with their tyrannical racial nationalism, you will also find many socialist ideas; here are some examples from the 25 point plan, their early party platform:

> We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood.

> We demand... that all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

> We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

> We demand profit-sharing in large industries.

> We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.

> We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class; the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople

> We demand...the abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

> We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.

> The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health

https://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points...

Edit: I'm not surprised that these inconvenient facts are being downvoted. Why acknowledge facts when you can attempt to suppress them instead? Why read history in the very words of the people of the time, when you can rewrite it instead?

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