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Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by input_sh »

cambalache wrote: post #163
saila wrote: post #131

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Everyone I know (personally or otherwise) who is an actual leftist is very vocally unhappy with the bombing of Syria, the lack of stimulus checks, ICE's policies, and Biden generally. He's most certainly not a leftist hero/idol.

A beautiful not-true-Scotman in the wild. AOC -> Silent Bernie -> Silent Krugman -> Silent Reich -> Silent Faang Employees -> Silent Ilham Omar -> To her credit, she spoke out. If by "actual leftist" you mean people like Rania Khalek, I would agree, but unfortunately people like her are a tiny minority and constantly belittled, ignored or called tankies or something along those lines. The mainstream left is dominated…

On Syria:

Bernie Sanders: https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1365361968513744897

Ilhan Omar: https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1365150215708299271?s=20

This took 10 seconds to find. You can make an argument that they could be louder (and I'd definitely agree with you on that), but you can't in good faith make an argument that they're "silent". As for Krugman and Reich, I don't see how they're any relevant.

AOC is so vocal about abolishing ICE that I don't feel the need to even back that up.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by toomim »

mikepost001 wrote: post #17
cmeacham98 wrote: post #4

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Parler is basically a direct clone of twitter's basic features. They use different names but have features similar to that of Twitter's tweet/like/retweet. Gab's current iteration is a mastodon fork (although iirc they don't participate in the fediverse via activitypub). Gab is similar to Twitter like Parler but is less of a direct clone, offering other features Twitter doesn't have. Gab has been along for longer and…

"you can say anything that is not directly illegal in the US without fear of being banned or other mode“ For a non-American, could you explain how this is far right? Sounds pretty liberal.

Indeed, liberals are now commonly being mis-labeled as "far-right" in America. The left has become intolerant of conservative views, and labels anything conservative as "far-right". Liberals tend to entertain views across the spectrum, and thus are labeled as "far-right" by many people in the left.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by cm2187 »

anigbrowl wrote: post #120
errantmind wrote: post #27

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Can you provide some evidence they catered to hate groups? It was my understanding they attracted hate groups due to their policy of 'free speech', but did not specifically cater to them

https://gab.com/ANS https://gab.com/CNSM For example

95 and 52 followers. Is that representative of the platform?

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by leereeves »

dagmx wrote: post #225
golergka wrote: post #222

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Vast majority of them, especially if you compare by the body count.

Can you list them and their body counts + Policies that caused those deaths?

Fortunately someone has already done so. It's far from a complete list, but it's enough to prove the point:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_...

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by cm2187 »

xahrepap wrote: post #121
asabjorn wrote: post #106

As much as I love open source, Gab should have never been open source. It seems very unwise to make a highly targeted free speech social media platform available for easy backend code analysis. No wonder they were hacked. https://git.rip/gab/gab-social

I don’t believe that Open Source == Less Secure. See also: Linux, Ngix, Postgres... Many many open source projects are secure. They’re not perfect but an argument could be made that they’re more secure BECAUSE they’re open. Software with crosshairs on its back practicing garbage security practices will be pwnd the same regardless of it’s open-ness. Honestly. With a lot of the tools out there these days. I question if…

There are probably a lot more eyes on a generic tool used everywhere than on the source code of a single web service.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by abernard1 »

jordigh wrote: post #133
mikepost001 wrote: post #17

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"you can say anything that is not directly illegal in the US without fear of being banned or other mode“ For a non-American, could you explain how this is far right? Sounds pretty liberal.

Because the only defense they constantly employ for saying atrocious things is that it's not literally illegal to say them. It's not literally illegal to be racist, it's not literally illegal to be xenophobic, it's not literally illegal to be transphobic. So they think they should be all those things, although they don't call themselves those names. Things should be said based on the inherent merit of what they say,…

> If the only reason you can find for justifying what you say is that nobody has made a law yet to stop you (and we do have laws to stop some things from being said), then perhaps you need to find a better thing to say.

If a person thinks that perhaps, maybe, there's 2 genders and not 700+, they should be prevented from civic discourse? That maybe we should not be providing chemical treatments to toddlers for gender reassignment, that's hate? If they believe that math isn't actually racist, but is an objective way of making sense of reality, are they racist? How about people who criticize Islam and argue that it is a fundamentally violent ideology? That lockdowns and "scientific" COVID-19 recommendations were harmful because Florida had fewer deaths per capita than NY or CA

Today, merely speaking any of these positions gets a person called a "transphobe" or a racist or a science denier. In addition to not convincing anyone and unfairly slandering the speakers, it destroys our ability to think as a society.

Socially "acceptable" speech has never needed legal protection (in any society, liberal or authoritarian). It's the offensive things that need protection from the book burners.

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Post by colesantiago »

jl6 wrote: post #249
colesantiago wrote: post #241

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trans women are women. period.

Some people disagree with that attempt to redefine words. This whole thread is about the right to have that disagreement in a civil fashion, or whether to shut down the thought process with phrases like “period”.

> This whole thread is about the right to have that disagreement in a civil fashion.

Well fuck their disagreement, there is no civility when you're excluding people.

Also, this t*rf shit is not up for discussion and there should be no debate on trans women's existence as women.

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Post by ggggtez »

dehrmann wrote: post #190
uniqueid wrote: post #15

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Gab is a site that caters to hate groups. I guess the targets of their hatred take it personally. That seems rational to me.

I think we're still in gray area around speech restrictions. What actually worries me is the glee people are taking in it. Yes, maybe a particular case did cross the line and incited violence, but it's a something something very serious and scary, not something to celebrate.

I think the gray area is why the far right thinks that "free speech" means "free-from-consequences speech".

They have their free speech already. They go on various platforms, and say whatever they want until people get mad and private companies make a money-based decision to ban them.

According to the libertarian view of the world: this is all working exactly as intended. Everyone in the system is making a private decision and speaking with their wallets.

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Post by colesantiago »

jl6 wrote: post #247
klodolph wrote: post #221

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Please do not support transphobia.

For the record, I support mainstream trans rights. I fail to see how evidence of hate and violence coming from trans extremists is transphobic.

> For the record, I support mainstream trans rights.

Then why the fuck are you bringing up this exclusionary t*rf shit? you sure have a really funny way of showing it.

Re: Gab has been hacked and 70GB of data leaked

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Post by [deleted] »

akyu wrote: post #32
uniqueid wrote: post #15

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Gab is a site that caters to hate groups. I guess the targets of their hatred take it personally. That seems rational to me.

If there is suspicion of crime, the government can get a subpoena. Otherwise, innocent until proven guilty. This seems rational to me.

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