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> I can cherry-pick several thousand twitter messages I've heard this claim asserted before. I am unconvinced. Can you show me some examples?
https://terfisaslur.com/
trans women are women. period.
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Because the only defense they constantly employ for saying atrocious things is that it's not literally illegal to say them. It's not literally illegal to be racist, it's not literally illegal to be xenophobic, it's not literally illegal to be transphobic. So they think they should be all those things, although they don't call themselves those names. Things should be said based on the inherent merit of what they say,…
I agree with you, but Twitter is rife with leftists being almost as horrible as Gab's extremists and not getting banned because Twitter execs lean left. So let's not act like Gab users are the only ones being awful.
Complete nonsense false equivalence. Gab is _dominated_ by far-right racist content and conspiracy theories. My mum uses Twitter and doesn't see a single far-left opinion, 99% of the content on Twitter is that way.
You're comparing an entire polluted pool that is unfit to swim in with a single floating turd in the ocean.
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#243Can someone explain the difference between Gab and Parler to someone unfamiliar with both?
Gab is older and in the old days, attracted alt right and downright nazis, however they banned the absolute worst by now.
So it has roots in the alt-right/nazi/4chan community and predates parler by a lot.
They used to have their own software, then switched to mastodon, but turned off the peering and added custom code apparently full of SQL injection.
Parler is very new and has roots in more conservative circles. It’s written from ground up and is apparently pretty bad, although it’s not working anymore.
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First they came for the fascists, and I was happy. Then it ended, because slippery slope is a fallacy.
First they came for the fascists. Then they came for the conservatives. Which made fascists recruit conservatives. Then they came for free speech advocates. Which made fascists recruit them. Then they came for capitalists. Which made the fascists recruit them. Don’t you worry, the fight isn’t over. The more you ban, the larger the counter groups get and the more radicalized they get. You see it today already. Book bu…
Hailing from a country that both experienced fascism and, ironically, is currently seeing some domestic activity in this regard, that's not how it's going to go.
Fascists don't "recruit" anyone - as a cult of power they require full compliance, so they're incompatible with a great many conservatives and essentially all free-speech advocates.
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Parler is basically a direct clone of twitter's basic features. They use different names but have features similar to that of Twitter's tweet/like/retweet. Gab's current iteration is a mastodon fork (although iirc they don't participate in the fediverse via activitypub). Gab is similar to Twitter like Parler but is less of a direct clone, offering other features Twitter doesn't have. Gab has been along for longer and…
"you can say anything that is not directly illegal in the US without fear of being banned or other mode“ For a non-American, could you explain how this is far right? Sounds pretty liberal.
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'Free speech' means nothing at all in the private sector - but 'supporting free speech' most definitely does. If a company opts to not support free speech (which is an ideal that I believe most Americans would say should be supported) by enacting censorship rules beyond what is illegal, they shouldn't be surprised when people that believe in that ideal look on them less favorably.
Any internet platform that didnt moderate would be overwhelmed with spam, porn, scams, hate, etc. Censorship and moderation are the same, a set of rules you must follow to participate. Gab is has huge problems with porn spam because of free speech policies. Imagine if email providers were not allowed to filter. Your email would be totally unusable. Enacting no filters beyond what's illegal would make most of the inte…
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First they came for the fascists, and I was happy. Then it ended, because slippery slope is a fallacy.
Oh come on. They've already come for wall street bets for putting hedge funds in a difficult position. It will get worse. It will be about people in power going unchallenged. Wake up.
How have they come for wallstreetbets? Huffman testified to congress:
> “WallStreetBets may look sophomoric or chaotic from the outside, but the fact that we are here today means they’ve managed to raise important issues about fairness and opportunity in our financial system,” Huffman said. “I’m proud they used Reddit to do so.”
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https://terfisaslur.com/
trans women are women. period.
Some people disagree with that attempt to redefine words. This whole thread is about the right to have that disagreement in a civil fashion, or whether to shut down the thought process with phrases like “period”.
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> Both market to the (mostly American) far right, with their shtick being basically "you can say anything that is not directly illegal in the US without fear of being banned or other moderation". It’s incredible that supporting free speech is considered to be only important enough to the “far right” now to be worth marketing to. Free speech used to be something all Americans supported and defended.
As a South African all of this is fascinating. Especially the shift of where the "center" is. It seemed every American not on the left is called "far right" from where I am sitting. Half a dozen of my friends have moved to the States and a few have scolded me for my understanding saying that plenty of centrists are labeled far right. I'm beginning to glaze over the label now. It doesn't hold any sway for me because i…
> It seemed every American not on the left is called "far right" from where I am sitting.
From my perspective as a German, you have the centrist democrats that swing quite a bit in both directions, and the republicans who swing from center right to "makes our local right wing extremist party drool"-right.