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Re: The Framework Laptop

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Yes! Actually, one of the first cards we built internally is a little Arduino-compatible one with a SAMD21 microcontroller and an external-facing 0.1" pin header for GPIO.

Will your specs include metric or just imperial measurements like you just used here?

Fear not, modern inches are metric inches:

since the adoption of the international yard during the 1950s and 1960s, it has been based on the metric system and defined as exactly 25.4 mm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inch

Re: The Framework Laptop

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It’s funny that the design is basically a macbook clone. Apple is way ahead with the M1, they will get rid of cooling, get massively better battery life and better performance.

But I am angry too at Apple for their high price and upgrade looked systems.

Re: The Framework Laptop

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Keyboard feel was high on our list of priorities. We engaged one of the bigger keyboard suppliers and worked with them on a custom one with 1.5mm key travel. We've built a fingerprint reader into the power button using a just-released sensor that has been performing really well in our testing so far. We're seeing False Reject Rates lower than the typical fingerprint readers built into laptops while keeping the right…

Any plans to support movable keycaps? I'd love to actually have the physical keys match my Colemak layout

Agree, this would be awesome.

Re: The Framework Laptop

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I've still never seen a PC with a sane touchpad. That's the first issue in a long tail of grievances with the PC laptop ecosystem. EDIT: This isn't a generic "pro-Mac" dig, I want a nice PC laptop because I like dabbling with Linux; however, even the high end trackpads are clunky, even with the pre-installed Windows (never mind the eternal sadness that is Linux trackpad configuration).

I felt that way until I got my hands on a Surface Book. They did a good job on that one, still holding up after 4+ years of constant use.

Yeah, the surface line seems to have quite-acceptable trackpads. I have an SP4, and the keyboard-cover's is... a bit strange to the touch (highly textured), but works reliably.

Unlike so many other brands. The vast majority I've used have been an endless stream of frustration and flakiness.

Re: The Framework Laptop

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> uhh...tab tab tab tab tab Please take a minute to type the name of any of the browsers I named into your favourite search engine or package manager and return when you know what we’re talking about. (This comment was made via Pentadactyl). > The vast majority of all computer interaction is putting the cursor in the right place in the first place. This is why it pains me to use browsers where I can’t tap [count]gi t…

> This comment was made via Pentadactyl Enlighten us all. What exactly did you press and what mental decision and awareness process was required to do it starting from the front page? > [count]gi "[count]" sounds like one would need to know how many like things on the page precede the thing you're trying to get to. Thanks but no thanks. 150! Oops, 100! Oops, 130!

You just look at the thing you want to click and press F then type the letters that appear on the tag.

EDIT: Here's an extremely low quality screencast of me making this comment

https://imgur.com/qpppveP

Re: The Framework Laptop

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> uhh...tab tab tab tab tab Please take a minute to type the name of any of the browsers I named into your favourite search engine or package manager and return when you know what we’re talking about. (This comment was made via Pentadactyl). > The vast majority of all computer interaction is putting the cursor in the right place in the first place. This is why it pains me to use browsers where I can’t tap [count]gi t…

> This comment was made via Pentadactyl Enlighten us all. What exactly did you press and what mental decision and awareness process was required to do it starting from the front page? > [count]gi "[count]" sounds like one would need to know how many like things on the page precede the thing you're trying to get to. Thanks but no thanks. 150! Oops, 100! Oops, 130!

f20 selects this discussion (the 20th link), but I used f4 to select threads (the 4th link); j,D, and scroll down by a line, half-screen/page and full-screen/page respectively; fr4 selects the correct reply (the fourth link whose text begins with r); gi goes to the first input field and enters insert mode.

In insert mode I may use the simple mixture of emacs/readline and CUA bindings — like ^w to wipe the last word, ^a to go to the beggining of the line and ^e to go to the end (eg. when inserting a > before a blockquote, then appending my commentary) — to write a straightforward comment from beginning to end, or I may use ^i to pop the field open in my $EDITOR (vis), where motions like m to mark my place, G to go to the end, o to open a new line, and M to return to my mark are useful for comments that might be written non-linearly, eg. if they have footnotes. I can save and exit vis (if I use it) with ZZ, and submit the comment with standard CUA .

If I reference any other material then Pentadactyl’s browsing bindings like go«character» to open a quickmark, s to search, p or P to paste my X11 primary selection as a search term or the url of a current or new tab, b to fast-as-you-type search through tabs, y to yank the current website, ;y«number and/or title of link to yank» and d to delete a tab are useful (along with standard X11 Shift+Insert to paste the primary selection in insert mode).

Ideally though, I should use Pentadactyl only for browsing — for scrolling through and reading web documents — and have a dedicated newsreader that understands what posts, comments, etc. are and could make this several times more efficient. I’m currently dipping my toes in evil-mode emacs, which should enable this. I’ve recently spent less time on HN and more on IRC where I do have a dedicated native client that makes things orders of magnitude more smooth than trying to use a web client in my browser.

Re: The Framework Laptop

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Yeah, I get it. I think plastic cases are going to be a tough sell for a company looking to be environmentally friendly. :) You're also not in the majority, but as I stated, I'd prefer a non-metal looking laptop. I've got a Razer Blade Stealth 13 which I had to put a skin on because it's a fingerprint magnet. Skins really aren't that bad, and they're designed to not block the vents.

Unless you just want to put a skin on your laptop, this feels like the whole "Rubber Band Antenna-gate" thing from Apple years back. The device should work as-is without some extra covering being required. Not everyone has skin allergies, but if you are mass producing devices that will be in close contact with skin for long durations, made with metals that are well known to cause skin irritation - sooner or later you…

Additionally, due to the way that the allergic sensitization process happens - many people only develop a reaction after frequent, long-term exposure. So it's very possible to use a metal laptop without experiencing an issue for a long period of time, and then to develop problems down the road. This, along with the allergens sometimes being from contaminants in the metals (so not listed and somewhat variable) - makes it very hard to predict and to identify afterward.

So while I'm "rare", in that I know I've got an allergy with a very noticeable reaction that can be triggered by laptops - many people don't know that they are at risk of developing it, even though they are. Or maybe they know they have a nickel sensitivity (this issue is very common with people who wear cheap jewelry) - but they don't know a laptop can trigger it.

Unless there's a big push to do some sort of widespread contaminant testing on laptops, I imagine this issue will grow if metal-body laptops continue to be the norm.

Re: The Framework Laptop

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>Designed for the future of work with a 13.5” 3:2 screen Yes 3:2! Really wish Apple took this direction. But instead it was the PC industry moving towards it. For Desktop or Laptops that no longer has Gaming or Media consumption as their priorities, 3:2 is just much better for productivity.

I must be the only person on HN who really likes 16:9. Actually I'd go further and do 2:1 if I could.

The reason is that the vast majority of my work is done with two windows open, side by side. A wider aspect ratio gives you a much better picture of what's happening in both, especially if one of them is a web browser (so many sites assume a pretty large screen width these days). The fact that it works much better with media (e.g. watching or editing film footage) is just a bonus.

Re: The Framework Laptop

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They claim "100% Yours", does that mean they managed to do away with the Intel Management Engine? I somehow doubt it...

For the rest I see a lot of proprietary modules. I somehow can't help but be a bit sceptical. It smells like proprietary lock-in sold as "freedom". I think I'll keep waiting till Pine64 comes out with a RiscV based PineBook Pro.

Re: The Framework Laptop

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> random SD cards I find laying around Can we explore that a bit? Laying around your house? Or like on the ground at work? I seem to remember some corporate espionage that relied on people looking at random SD cards they found on the ground...

Mostly my and my friends' homes, but I do remember finding an SD card on the ground once... Do you think I'm being targeted by spies? :) It had someone's pictures on it, but no identifying information, so I had no way of returning it. Thankfully random SD cards should be much safer than random USB devices, but it's probably better to be careful.

> It had someone's pictures on it, but no identifying information, so I had no way of returning it.

You could hav put your laptop on a network with heaps of monitoring going on, and then mailed it back to NSA/GRU/MSS/Mossad as required based on the ip addresses your machine started connecting to...

;-)

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