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Falling sperm counts, declining egg quality, and endocrine disruptors

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Good parenting is adopting rather than creating new life. Birthing a child is the single worst thing a couple can do to the environment.

Then the intelligent people who should be having kids are not. We need smart people to fix problems, especially related to the environment. If all the low IQ people keep pumping out babies you can kiss the precious environment goodbye.

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Enamel Ceramic Cast iron Stainless steel In that order, in my opinion.

You left out the two I’ve been considering, hard anodized and high carbon steel. Any reason why?

I just wrote down what I could remember and have experience with.

I don't buy frying pans, so I take what I can get.

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Weight loss and proper exercise will probably deliver 99% of the improvements for 99% of the people. Stressing about heat, radiation, micro plastics, or other random stuff seems like extra stress for not that much benefit. Most people in Western world are either out of shape, or straight up obese. It makes sense that, that will have huge negative effects on fertility.

We tried for several months but after starting and following a workout regimen for a few weeks... it just happened! It's amazing what a little exercise can do for your body!

It takes 3 months or so for sperm to grow, so on that time frame the exercise can’t have made a difference to your sperm quality, it was probably fine already and you just had to wait to get lucky.

Unless you’ve been trying for over a year that’s just a perfectly normal amount of time for it to take anyway

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In my experience, Teflon will always be scratched. Yes, in theory you could "use it correctly", but nobody ever does. So it's better to simply not have them.

>Teflon will always be scratched AFAIK this is a non-issue because teflon is inert in its finished form. It's only an health risk during manufacturing and when it's heated too high.

Sorry, but your knowledge is incorrect. Teflon breaks down and leeches into food at commonly encountered cooking temperatures.

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They've also eaten soy for much longer than others, literally thousands of years(1) at this point. That's more than long enough to evolve countermeasures if it did have an effect. They also eat soy differently, mainly in products which are fermented. 1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soybean#History

I think a lot of it comes down to how it's processed... fermentation probably made it safer to consume over time. I think the aversion to dietary fat for the past 3 generations combined with refined seed/bean oils has been hugely detrimental to human health as well. Not to mention, even with reductions, we still consume a massive amount of sugar per capita compared to pre-wwii levels.

It’s crazy isn’t it. So many foods they market as ‘low fat’ they just took out the good fat and replaced it with sugar- which your body immediately turns into fat anyway, and messes up your hormones and insulin sensitivity along the way.

And the only oil we’ve introduced into the diet is trans fat which the body mistakes for good fat and just starts building stuff with it, and then it all breaks down and you get heart disease.

You couldn’t make it up

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Then the intelligent people who should be having kids are not. We need smart people to fix problems, especially related to the environment. If all the low IQ people keep pumping out babies you can kiss the precious environment goodbye.

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I don’t read any politics or social media outside HN so funny to see what a political sheep looks like.

Forced sterilization based on political association is... uh, not a high IQ suggestion.

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Haha. I unfortunately did take it a bit more seriously. There was a point where if someone offered me a biscuit with my decaf tea my inner monologue would say “if you eat that biscuit you might never have children”. It was at least in that way the easiest diet I ever went on. 100% motivation!

What's so wrong with never having children?

This is what I keep getting caught up on. I, for one, don't mind that my sperm count may be lower than my ancestors, or that my partners egg quality may be lower. I don't ever want to have children, so this honestly seems like a good thing to me. I know this isn't true for everyone (I'd say the majority of people _do_ want to reproduce), but for me personally, this kind of thing seems positive to indifferent at best.

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You... avoided all that? How? You didn't wear underpants or what?

I'm not the parent poster, but here's my take: Heat - Live somewhere North. There's very little of it. Radiation - No wi-fi at home, put phone in breast pocket. Plastic, micro plastics - Never buy anything plastic, if possible. Buy food whole in paper bags from local market; prefer glass and carboard containers. Buy cotton/silk/etc clothing, never anything made of poly-anything. Tap water - Live where it's clean. Tef…

> No aluminium

I missed that one, what is wrong with Aluminium for cookware? Can you point to any source on that?

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Do you have your units mixed up? Wikipedia seems to have a different range: >While PTFE is stable and nontoxic at lower temperatures, it begins to deteriorate after the temperature of cookware reaches about 260 °C (500 °F), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene

I used a different source than the one you link. 500F is not difficult for a frying pan to reach either. The same Wikipedia page also reads: >Pyrolysis of PTFE is detectable at 200 °C (392 °F), and it evolves several fluorocarbon gases and a sublimate. My completely unscientific, unsubstantiated guess, based purely on obsessively researching food safety for years, is that it begins to leach at a much lower temperatur…

> I used a different source than the one you link. 500F is not difficult for a frying pan to reach either.

Most vegetable oils smoke before 500F. If you're just frying up an egg or sauteing some vegetables you'll be fine.

>The same Wikipedia page also reads:

The sentence after it:

>An animal study conducted in 1955 concluded that it is unlikely that these products would be generated in amounts significant to health at temperatures below 250 °C (482 °F).[

Re: Falling sperm counts, declining egg quality, and endocrine disruptors

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Personally I just use cheap and simple solid stainless steel cookware, and scrub aggressively. Chainmail scrubbers work well for really baked on stuff: https://www.amazon.com/Knapp-Made-CM-Scrubber-Stainless/dp/B... I used to have teflon cookware. It's great in theory. But in practice, I find indestructible stuff that you don't have to baby works much better for me. Of course, if you don't have much upper body streng…

I have used cast iron for decades. Never once had to scrub them.

Hot water in a hot/warm pan has always worked for me to keep them clean.
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