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Falling sperm counts, declining egg quality, and endocrine disruptors

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Re: Falling sperm counts, declining egg quality, and endocrine disruptors

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So you started drinking bottled water, turned off the Wifi, eating sushi and going commando? Doesn't sound so bad, really.

Won't bottled water be more likely to contain plastic traces?

At least you know what's in bottled water, the water supply and its contents can vary wildly. In some places they still use lead pipes iirc.

Re: Falling sperm counts, declining egg quality, and endocrine disruptors

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Yes absolutely! Still doing the dietary things for her. She gets to have hot baths though, and wear tight fitting underpants. FYI anyone else reading, if you have a boy Teflon is really something you should avoid.

I wonder if it's Teflon in general or damaged Teflon pans - many people do not used them correctly, overheat them and have damaged coatings that leak chemicals. You can go check perfectly fine pans having 1-star Amazon reviews "Pan sticking after a month!".

In my experience, Teflon will always be scratched. Yes, in theory you could "use it correctly", but nobody ever does. So it's better to simply not have them.

Re: Falling sperm counts, declining egg quality, and endocrine disruptors

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Is this really so bad? Assuming humans are hit the hardest, the planet will be better off. Obviously we wouldn't want it to kill our civilization, but for the mean time, it doesn't sound so bad with less homo sapiens

1. This is happening in the western world, not in places the population is growing fastest 2. It's not just less humans, it s of worse quality

jeez point 2, western chauvinism strikes again.

Re: Falling sperm counts, declining egg quality, and endocrine disruptors

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> It is unreasonable to implicitly assert that it's the only factor and the clear singular cause Sure, but did op assert that? I didn't read it that way.

It's a distinction that doesn't require the OP to have done any such thing for the distinction to be meaningful. Making a distinction about what is or is not a reasonable inference when someone asks isn't the same thing as accusing them of anything.

I agree, but in that case why bother? In replying with such a distinction, the assumption is that you're actually responding directly to the op, not just quoting truisms.

Re: Falling sperm counts, declining egg quality, and endocrine disruptors

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It's a distinction that doesn't require the OP to have done any such thing for the distinction to be meaningful. Making a distinction about what is or is not a reasonable inference when someone asks isn't the same thing as accusing them of anything.

I agree, but in that case why bother? In replying with such a distinction, the assumption is that you're actually responding directly to the op, not just quoting truisms.

They asked. I felt it was a distinction worth making.

You aren't the OP. Why do you care so much? Why do you feel compelled to engage with the words on the screen of some internet stranger who likely has a different cultural background from you and does things for reasons different from yours?

Re: Falling sperm counts, declining egg quality, and endocrine disruptors

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Related: "Chemicals in plastics damage babies' brains and must be banned immediately (cnn.com)" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26211605

If only plastic utensils and other plastic one-use expendables had never been taken as good idea in the first place

I think many health problems are related to not a few single causes, but to a cocktail of problems, some chemical, other purely lifestyle(sleep, food, exercise).

It's humbling how much AND little we know about processes in the body. Just read the article and comments some days ago about antidepressants. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26197140

Re: Falling sperm counts, declining egg quality, and endocrine disruptors

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Tim Ferris wrote about radiation from mobile phones reducing sperm count in rats, and tested it on himself (as he usually does). Banned the mobile from his pants and got one of those attach it to your arm thingies. Spermcount went up.

Tim Ferris is half conartist half motivation speaker.

I don't really love his shtick generally (a bit too try hard and salesman for my liking) but I think he's honest and not trying to con anyone. For example I tried the slow carb diet he proposes and I lost tonnes of weight.

Re: Falling sperm counts, declining egg quality, and endocrine disruptors

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So much "plastic" packaging nowadays (in the UK) is labelled with "Do not recycle" but no indication of what it's made of. This has annoyed me from an environmental point of view, but probably one should look at it from a health point of view, too. Perhaps those items are made from a material that the manufacturers know has potential health implications and that's why they're carefully not saying what it is? Perhaps…

NPR recently collected some history lots of plastics got some recycling symbols even though most plastics are not recycled for economic reasons: plastics have to be unmixed for true recycling. Most food packaging is landfill. https://www.npr.org/2020/09/11/897692090/how-big-oil-misled-...

The symbol with three arrows in a triangle and a code does not mean an item is recyclable. The official name is a Resin Identification Code. It lets you identify what material an item is made of, but it does not say whether it can be recycled or not, as that varies depending on local facilities.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resin_identification_code

Re: Falling sperm counts, declining egg quality, and endocrine disruptors

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They've also eaten soy for much longer than others, literally thousands of years(1) at this point. That's more than long enough to evolve countermeasures if it did have an effect. They also eat soy differently, mainly in products which are fermented. 1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soybean#History

Almost 95 percent of the soybeans grown in the U.S. are genetically modified. https://www.thedailymeal.com/travel/8-most-genetically-modif... In 2007, over half the world’s soybean crop was genetically modified; a higher percentage than any other crop. https://worldofgenetics.weebly.com/genetically-modified-soyb... Asians are probably eating less GMO soy (than Americans) and we don't really know what those genetic mo…

> Asians are probably eating less GMO soy

I may be out of the loop here, but why do you say that? Are Asians particularly more GMO-averse than Americans?

Re: Falling sperm counts, declining egg quality, and endocrine disruptors

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One thing I miss about Germany is S.Pellegrino in glass bottles. Since I moved to Belgium it has been incredibly hard to come by glass-bottled water.

Can't you just drink tap water, or if it really tastes that bad use a water filter. The idea of buying a new bottle every time you want a drink of water seems insane to me!

I assumed they were talking about reused glass bottles. Here (so in Belgium) I buy cases of water bottles with a deposit and return them empty.

The bottles are reused, and the water tastes a lot better than at least my tap water (in Antwerp - the tap water comes from a stagnant canal used for merchandise shipping, and last year for example it turned green and smelled of algae for a while after a ship carrying fertilizer capsized).

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