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YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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Not sure what a thinly resourced piece like this is doing so high up on HN. There’s really very little evidence that this has anything to do with racial slurs. From a quick read: last June, the channel was banned for “harmful and dangerous” content. The ban was removed in under 24 hours. YouTube has not confirmed the reason. And yet: > Experts suspect that it was the usage of words like "black" and "white" that confu…

It's old news, and it was discussed at the time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23729156

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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“ The researchers now suggest that social-media platforms should incorporate chess language in their algorithms to avoid future incidents like this.” Or maybe don’t automate banning YouTube channels via nebulous black boxes? Or can advertisers stop being afraid of anything and everything?

Youtube doesn't need stupid black boxes to make stupid decisions; look at their recent banning of a satirical Pewdiepie music video, for allegedly encouraging harassment. (It was a joke aimed at a nursery rhyme channel, how do you harass a nursery rhyme channel?)

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, I meant nebulous as in unclear, hazy, or undefined. Nobody knows what the YouTube algorithm is going to decide is inappropriate next. Their site’s wording is very vague and unclear as well. You have youtubers censoring swear words now, and people uploading footage from video games like TF2 have had issues before.

> Nobody knows what the YouTube algorithm is going to decide is inappropriate next. Then that is the very definition of "opaque", which is what YouTube want and aim for.

An opaque algorithm could be unknown but consistent and thus learnable. YouTube is also nebulous, in that it is fuzzy and inconsistent; what is allowed on one channel may ban another.

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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Delegating prosecution of possible hate speech to commercial entities was always going to be bad. Youtube is essentially a public forum with audience of entire countries, where the people who run it choose what gets amplified, what gets shunned and what get outright blocked. Who would be happy with a private entity deciding the future mindsets at this scale?

That is it exactly what I’ve been saying about twitterführer Dorsey ever since he blocked the NY Post. Though in his case he went so overboard with banning and blocking everyone with a viewpoint he didn’t agree with that he made all the other world leaders take notice and be concerned that they could get blocked just as easily. I expect that after the next G7 summit we will start to see the social media companies bro…

We're at the point where social network companies can break up countries, not vice versa.

Some related fiction (or is it?) https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/10/30/sort-by-controversial/

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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the chess is a very aggressive game of premediated threats and attacks with the goal to achieve dominance and control over another player. It fosters individualism and combativeness instead of teamwork and collaboration. I think it should be age restricted like say alcohol and driving.

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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“ The researchers now suggest that social-media platforms should incorporate chess language in their algorithms to avoid future incidents like this.” Or maybe don’t automate banning YouTube channels via nebulous black boxes? Or can advertisers stop being afraid of anything and everything?

Your comment has been moderated for racist language ("black boxes").

You kid but i've received 2 pull-requests on my open-source project, which only goal was to replace "Blacklist" with "Blocklist" in the app preferences.

I don't receive many PRs. This is a real trend.

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your comment has been moderated for racist language ("black boxes").

You kid but i've received 2 pull-requests on my open-source project, which only goal was to replace "Blacklist" with "Blocklist" in the app preferences. I don't receive many PRs. This is a real trend.

Funny thing is, since nobody ever submits PRs to change it in the opposite direction, even one person going around on GitHub would be virtually guaranteed to eventually change all of them.

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your comment has been moderated for racist language ("black boxes").

You kid but i've received 2 pull-requests on my open-source project, which only goal was to replace "Blacklist" with "Blocklist" in the app preferences. I don't receive many PRs. This is a real trend.

Political correctness run amok! My company has now official guidelines that discourage 'whitelist' and 'blacklist' in new features, but I wonder how long before they make everyone go back and refactor these names.

Git 'master' branch derangement is another example of this BS.

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your comment has been moderated for racist language ("black boxes").

You kid but i've received 2 pull-requests on my open-source project, which only goal was to replace "Blacklist" with "Blocklist" in the app preferences. I don't receive many PRs. This is a real trend.

A lot of language-fixing slacktivism easily becomes a trend because it's highly visible and requires no genuine effort.

It's complete bullshit, though. This particular bullshit is awful since it trivializes all this historic pain to some inane game of word association.

There's no point arguing, though, just drag your heels until they get bored and go off on some other crusade.

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