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United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by zucker42 »

eptcyka wrote: post #266
milankragujevic wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Offtopic to OP but regarding Linus Tech Tips: I also stopped watching 90% of all LMG (his company) videos (on all their channels) because of the clickbait forcing me to click onto things that I am not interested in, only to quickly leave the video. I am not going to watch what I don't want to watch whether it has a clickbait thumbnail and title or not, so they just annoy me more with this. I have not voiced my opinio…

There's a fan community? I was always under the impression that his videos served as glorified ads for consumer tech. The technical insight delivered was skin deep. Didn't he brag about a 20 drive NAS one week only to cry about the raid0 config dying and taking down a lot of their footage the next week?

I don't think it was Raid 0 if you're talking about the time a long time ago they nearly lost data. If I recall correctly, the data was in Raid 6, but there was no external backup.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by ledauphin »

TangoFox wrote: post #231
ledauphin wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

today was quite weird for Boeing airplanes, as well as for United. United Flight 1832 (a 737-8) from Cancun to Houston had a single engine shutdown on the way and had to divert to New Orleans.

I'm an Air Traffic Controller at Houston Center, and a regular user of this website. Today I was the Radar Associate controller in the Ocean West sector when that aircraft flew through. The Radar Associate works alongside the Radar Controller, and performs coordinations and other actions to assist the Radar Controller. It is the Radar Controller who talks with the aircraft on frequency. In the Ocean West sector, the…

Actually, one thing I was wondering after I got the alert about the 7700 (via flightradar24) - is there anything I'm missing in terms of a reasonably reliable way to figure out what Center frequency a given airplane is currently communicating on, when not low enough to be talking to Approach? I'm assuming there isn't, because handoffs from departure seem to vary frequencies when I fly.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by mjg59 »

dheera wrote: post #221

Some honest questions here for experts: 0. Why was the engine flaming in the first video? Why didn't the pilots cut fuel to that engine immediately and use the other engine to land? 1. What is the best way to communicate issues to the pilot if you're a passenger and see something the pilot can't see? For example once I was sitting in the back of the aircraft on Airtran and I saw a screw on the jet loosening and almos…

Not an expert, but: if there had still been fuel supplied to that engine, the fire would have been a lot worse. If you watch the video the fire clearly becomes less intense over time, and the footage of the landing suggests it's out by then. Remember that fuel isn't the only flammable thing there - engines need oil for lubrication, and in combination with whatever residual fuel was in the system and potentially sprayed everywhere, it's not surprising that you'd have enough to burn for a short time.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by opensmtpd »

milankragujevic wrote: post #223
Fogest wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BREAKING NEWS: More people died of COVID today. I see see often headlines in my Google news feed saying something along those lines. I've stopped clicking on YouTube videos that give me no idea what they are going to be in the thumbnail/title. For example on Linus Tech Tips second channel ShortCiruit a good chunk of their videos do this. Latest one from 3 years ago in my sub box "I almost hurt myself open this...." a…

Offtopic to OP but regarding Linus Tech Tips: I also stopped watching 90% of all LMG (his company) videos (on all their channels) because of the clickbait forcing me to click onto things that I am not interested in, only to quickly leave the video. I am not going to watch what I don't want to watch whether it has a clickbait thumbnail and title or not, so they just annoy me more with this. I have not voiced my opinio…

I'm on the same boat. I stopped watching their videos after I started to feel more and more videos were made just for the sake of making more videos. Every time I bite and watch through, I realize I haven't gained any fun, information, nor education and just wasted 10 minutes and 1 second of my time. I don't think it's just LTT. I feel that more and more channels are going this way.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by Hnrobert42 »

TangoFox wrote: post #231
ledauphin wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

today was quite weird for Boeing airplanes, as well as for United. United Flight 1832 (a 737-8) from Cancun to Houston had a single engine shutdown on the way and had to divert to New Orleans.

I'm an Air Traffic Controller at Houston Center, and a regular user of this website. Today I was the Radar Associate controller in the Ocean West sector when that aircraft flew through. The Radar Associate works alongside the Radar Controller, and performs coordinations and other actions to assist the Radar Controller. It is the Radar Controller who talks with the aircraft on frequency. In the Ocean West sector, the…

Is RADAR Controller the senior position and RADAR Associate the junior position? That is, does one normally progress from Associate to Controller? How long does it take to progress from one to the next? Is it common/expected for people in your position to move to different airports?

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by iawix »

dheera wrote: post #221

Some honest questions here for experts: 0. Why was the engine flaming in the first video? Why didn't the pilots cut fuel to that engine immediately and use the other engine to land? 1. What is the best way to communicate issues to the pilot if you're a passenger and see something the pilot can't see? For example once I was sitting in the back of the aircraft on Airtran and I saw a screw on the jet loosening and almos…

0. Airliners have fire bottles filled with Halon to extinguish flames, but they're ineffective if the cowling separates from the engine. That's assuming this uncontained failure didn't damage the bottle or wiring to it.

1. Kudos, that's exactly the way to do it. If it was a screw on top of the wing though, it was likely communicated later as one screw coming off a panel isn't a big deal.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by iawix »

thiagocsf wrote: post #259
haunter wrote: post #37

Recording of the ATC https://twitter.com/ryancaustin1/status/1363236118657957895?... Video of the flying debris https://twitter.com/jacdecnew/status/1363241028690599938?s=2...

The right engine was out and the pilot chose to do a left turn. Is the choice related?

It's good airmanship to turn into your "good" engine.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by mc10 »

jrockway wrote: post #250
banana_giraffe wrote: post #227

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I'm in the same boat .. actually, I'm more set in my ways, if the title doesn't tell me what it's about, I don't bother looking at the thumbnail. Here are some titles from recent videos: I REALLY Love Building Computers!! Never seen one of these before... Sorry. Your gaming laptop sucks now. Maybe upgrading is pointless….. Linus was right. It's such click-bait, and so annoying. It's sad about LTT too. I can't find it…

I am interested in how he A/B tests these things. I've never seen non-clickbait LMG videos, so if they're constantly testing they must not be up for long. Or they test on their forums or something like that. (I know it sounds like I'm confirming the theory that videos don't get recommended if they're not clickbaity, but I only rarely get LTT recommendations in general. I do specifically go to the channel and look for…

They often change the titles of their videos, sometimes multiple times. Not sure if that counts as "A/B testing" though.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by karlkatzke »

dmoy wrote: post #134

That quoted ground observer. Do they work for the NTSB or something? I am 110% certain that if I saw a plane on fire in the sky, I would not have the presence of mind to remember the term "cloud deck", let alone the rest of those details. Ground observer: "Good sir, I do say that the cloud deck was quite low so I didn't get a good look, but the engine was mildly louder than usual, and possibly had smoke, but perhaps…

No offense towards the average bear, but I would probably have dictated a statement the same way.

I’m not an average bear though. I regularly read and refer to things learned from airlines and other high criticality career fields, and talk about them at conferences. My sister is an airline pilot and I might have been if I wasn’t medically disqualified.

I do participate in government emergency response work and that looks like the type of statement that would come from a trained observer who knows how to express directionality as unambiguously as possible.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by subhro »

No doubt this was a happy ending, but modern airplanes like the 777 are perfectly capable of flying, even climbing with one engine. So, while it seems very heroic on the part of the pilot, it is pretty ordinary and non news.

What I do think is a happy outcome is the debris from the disintegrating engine did not fall on someone and kill/injure them.

Source: Pilot.

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