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United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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post #108

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I don't follow how the right engine being out means left turns. Seems like you'd have extra thrust on the left side and you'd want to make right turns. They wanted to keep the right engine high? I'm not sure what I missed.

When turning into the dead engine, there’s a tendency to overbank as the plane will yaw towards the inoperative engine.

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Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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post #18

Lucky it didn’t happen half way. Could have been several hours on one engine and the other one shaking and on fire.

Luckily flight plans are always required to be within a certain number of minutes of a place to land, and are certified to operate on one engine for that period. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETOPS

The shaking would concern me.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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What, you don’t like the anchor people on TV asking each other how they feel about every piece of news and making horrible puns at every opportunity? Or having expected announcements be reported as BREAKING NEWS?

As a European who tuned in to US News for the US election I thought that was crazy. I'd watch a few of the right media orgs to see what they were saying and then stay on CNN/MSNBC etc for most of it. It's mad how so much of it every hour was essentially people just regurgitating stuff to fill the time. I mean OK what's happening is important but if you can't fill the airtime why not shift to other news (as in everyth…

Tweets now often start with the 3 gyrophares then “breaking news urgent!!!”

It is highly stressful. A good tip is to write “Breaking”, “Alert” and “Urgent” as spam words in the Twitter administration, so all tweets containing it will be hidden (or leave them, to ensure the Twitter experience is as bad as possible until you hate opening it).

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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I really appreciate focused news sites like avherald. Just the facts, a collection of photos and videos, straightforward. The video of the landing & the passengers cheering—- that huge sigh of relief. Brings a smile to my face.

What, you don’t like the anchor people on TV asking each other how they feel about every piece of news and making horrible puns at every opportunity? Or having expected announcements be reported as BREAKING NEWS?

BREAKING NEWS: More people died of COVID today. I see see often headlines in my Google news feed saying something along those lines.

I've stopped clicking on YouTube videos that give me no idea what they are going to be in the thumbnail/title. For example on Linus Tech Tips second channel ShortCiruit a good chunk of their videos do this. Latest one from 3 years ago in my sub box "I almost hurt myself open this...." and the thumbnail is him maybe holding a big TV with a game on the screen. I can't tell if it's a big monitor, a tv, or if the video will be about what's on the screen in the thumbnail. I wish that videos/news/blogs that use titles like this could also just tack something on the end in brackets saying a couple words about what it's actually talking about.

Too often I'm having to fall prey to the clickbait just to see if maybe the video will interest me or not. More often than not it doesn't and I just wasted time.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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What, you don’t like the anchor people on TV asking each other how they feel about every piece of news and making horrible puns at every opportunity? Or having expected announcements be reported as BREAKING NEWS?

As a European who tuned in to US News for the US election I thought that was crazy. I'd watch a few of the right media orgs to see what they were saying and then stay on CNN/MSNBC etc for most of it. It's mad how so much of it every hour was essentially people just regurgitating stuff to fill the time. I mean OK what's happening is important but if you can't fill the airtime why not shift to other news (as in everyth…

i like that they keep such a positive tone of voice. I get the impression they delight in sharing "bad" news since it invariably can be blamed on whichever party their outlet opposes.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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post #181

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Poisson distribution, higher probability of short periods between failures than long ones.

Anyone care to elaborate? I don't understand what he means, but I feel like this is an interesting thread to pull.

Briefly: if you expect 10 failures in 10 years evenly distributed then you would expect 1 per year.

If it is a Possion distribution then you'd expect them to bunch up and get years with none, then them concentrated over a few years.

Possion distributions usually imply a time factor. That's concerning in this case as it implies maintenance isn't effective.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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What, you don’t like the anchor people on TV asking each other how they feel about every piece of news and making horrible puns at every opportunity? Or having expected announcements be reported as BREAKING NEWS?

As a European who tuned in to US News for the US election I thought that was crazy. I'd watch a few of the right media orgs to see what they were saying and then stay on CNN/MSNBC etc for most of it. It's mad how so much of it every hour was essentially people just regurgitating stuff to fill the time. I mean OK what's happening is important but if you can't fill the airtime why not shift to other news (as in everyth…

All US TV “news” is intolerable garbage, but since the US is the global cultural hegemon, plenty of foreign media outlets cover our news. Almost any well-respected European broadcaster is a better source for US political news than any in the country.

Newspapers are better than TV: the New York Times and Wall Street Journal are both much less sensational than any of the broadcasters.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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post #90

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Not if you have Sully in the cockpit [1]. They can still glide. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesley_Sullenberger

Not very well, though.

Well enough.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider

> In 10 nautical miles (19 km; 12 mi) the aircraft lost 5,000 feet (1,500 m), giving a glide ratio of approximately 12:1 (dedicated glider planes reach ratios of 50:1 to 70:1).

> Air Canada Flight 143 came to a final stop on the ground 17 minutes after running out of fuel.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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post #134

That quoted ground observer. Do they work for the NTSB or something? I am 110% certain that if I saw a plane on fire in the sky, I would not have the presence of mind to remember the term "cloud deck", let alone the rest of those details. Ground observer: "Good sir, I do say that the cloud deck was quite low so I didn't get a good look, but the engine was mildly louder than usual, and possibly had smoke, but perhaps…

You'd be surprised. Years back, I saw what looked to be a near midair collision, including a smoke trail from one of the involved aircraft, and watched for a while from the front right seat of the Jeep my boss was driving us to a job site in. Presence of mind isn't really an issue. You're more just trying to understand and follow what you're seeing. Today, of course, I'd be watching through my 500mm lens and taking p…

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