United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine • Hacker News Board

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by dheera » Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 1:22 AM UTC

Some honest questions here for experts:

0. Why was the engine flaming in the first video? Why didn't the pilots cut fuel to that engine immediately and use the other engine to land?

1. What is the best way to communicate issues to the pilot if you're a passenger and see something the pilot can't see? For example once I was sitting in the back of the aircraft on Airtran and I saw a screw on the jet loosening and almost falling out. I told a flight attendant but they were just kind of "Um hmm okay thanks for letting us know! Would you like any orange juice?"

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by throw0101a » Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 1:24 AM UTC

haunter wrote: post #37

Recording of the ATC https://twitter.com/ryancaustin1/status/1363236118657957895?... Video of the flying debris https://twitter.com/jacdecnew/status/1363241028690599938?s=2...

Animated recreation with audio:

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7-zh7Sebr8

* Via: https://forums.liveatc.net/atcaviation-audio-clips/ual-328-u...

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by milankragujevic » Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 1:26 AM UTC

Fogest wrote: post #205

IgorPartola wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What, you don’t like the anchor people on TV asking each other how they feel about every piece of news and making horrible puns at every opportunity? Or having expected announcements be reported as BREAKING NEWS?

BREAKING NEWS: More people died of COVID today. I see see often headlines in my Google news feed saying something along those lines. I've stopped clicking on YouTube videos that give me no idea what they are going to be in the thumbnail/title. For example on Linus Tech Tips second channel ShortCiruit a good chunk of their videos do this. Latest one from 3 years ago in my sub box "I almost hurt myself open this...." a…

Offtopic to OP but regarding Linus Tech Tips:

I also stopped watching 90% of all LMG (his company) videos (on all their channels) because of the clickbait forcing me to click onto things that I am not interested in, only to quickly leave the video. I am not going to watch what I don't want to watch whether it has a clickbait thumbnail and title or not, so they just annoy me more with this. I have not voiced my opinion for two reasons: 1) it's a really common opinion, Linus is aware of it and this style is obviously good for business since they kept it, 2) fear of intense backlash from the fan community.

So yeah, got that off my chest.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by throw0101a » Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 1:28 AM UTC

terramex wrote: post #113

Almost identical incident happened 3 years ago - the same type (B777-200), the same engine (PW4077), the same operator (United Airlines), the same side (right engine), the same failure (unconfined engine failure). https://avherald.com/h?article=4b4e8ca7&opt=0 I would not be surprised if the whole fleet of this type/engine gets grounded for some time.

Animated recreation with ATC audio of that flight (UA1175):

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-_IAKCBTxc

Animated recreation with audio of this one (UA328):

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7-zh7Sebr8

* Via: https://forums.liveatc.net/atcaviation-audio-clips/ual-328-u...

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by derefr » Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 1:29 AM UTC

IgorPartola wrote: post #25

larkinrichards wrote: post #11

I really appreciate focused news sites like avherald. Just the facts, a collection of photos and videos, straightforward. The video of the landing & the passengers cheering—- that huge sigh of relief. Brings a smile to my face.

What, you don’t like the anchor people on TV asking each other how they feel about every piece of news and making horrible puns at every opportunity? Or having expected announcements be reported as BREAKING NEWS?

I would be intrigued to see a news site where only news interesting enough to “speak for itself” without editorialization makes the cut to publish.

It’d probably be pretty slow to update, but that’s be fine by me.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by bobthepanda » Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 1:30 AM UTC

joshuahughes wrote: post #200

bobthepanda wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Newsmax and OAN are notorious for extremely slanted coverage. The Guardian has a slant, but nearly every news outlet will have some slant, either by coverage or through omission. But it's certainly a lot worse at Newsmax and OAN. EDIT: accidentally said "doesn't have"

The Guardian doesn't have a slant? You might want to reconsider that... “the Guardian is seen as Britain’s most left-wing newspaper” https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2017/0...

That was actually a typo. Need to proofread before I post, apparently.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by banana_giraffe » Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 1:32 AM UTC

Fogest wrote: post #205

IgorPartola wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What, you don’t like the anchor people on TV asking each other how they feel about every piece of news and making horrible puns at every opportunity? Or having expected announcements be reported as BREAKING NEWS?

BREAKING NEWS: More people died of COVID today. I see see often headlines in my Google news feed saying something along those lines. I've stopped clicking on YouTube videos that give me no idea what they are going to be in the thumbnail/title. For example on Linus Tech Tips second channel ShortCiruit a good chunk of their videos do this. Latest one from 3 years ago in my sub box "I almost hurt myself open this...." a…

I'm in the same boat .. actually, I'm more set in my ways, if the title doesn't tell me what it's about, I don't bother looking at the thumbnail. Here are some titles from recent videos:

    I REALLY Love Building Computers!!
    Never seen one of these before...
    Sorry. Your gaming laptop sucks now.
    Maybe upgrading is pointless…..
    Linus was right.

It's such click-bait, and so annoying.

It's sad about LTT too. I can't find it now, but I saw a video of his talking about this. He doesn't actually like these titles, but claims to have proof they improve viewership counts, so in his quest to optimized for higher and higher counts, he annoys some long time viewers. Can't blame him if it works, but I do wonder if it'll be self-defeating in the end.

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by benatkin » Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 1:34 AM UTC

divbzero wrote: post #74

larkinrichards wrote: post #11

I really appreciate focused news sites like avherald. Just the facts, a collection of photos and videos, straightforward. The video of the landing & the passengers cheering—- that huge sigh of relief. Brings a smile to my face.

The straightforward captions are also delightful: > The aircraft seen in flight > The engine inlet in a garden > Engine debris on the Broomfield soccer field

Counterpoint to the last two:

- it's just a front yard (It would make a good CAPTCHA question - select all photos of gardens. Anyone choosing a photo of this yard before the debris landed there would fail.)

- there's more than one soccer field in Broomfield

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by wyxuan » Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 1:38 AM UTC

banana_giraffe wrote: post #227

Fogest wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BREAKING NEWS: More people died of COVID today. I see see often headlines in my Google news feed saying something along those lines. I've stopped clicking on YouTube videos that give me no idea what they are going to be in the thumbnail/title. For example on Linus Tech Tips second channel ShortCiruit a good chunk of their videos do this. Latest one from 3 years ago in my sub box "I almost hurt myself open this...." a…

I'm in the same boat .. actually, I'm more set in my ways, if the title doesn't tell me what it's about, I don't bother looking at the thumbnail. Here are some titles from recent videos: I REALLY Love Building Computers!! Never seen one of these before... Sorry. Your gaming laptop sucks now. Maybe upgrading is pointless….. Linus was right. It's such click-bait, and so annoying. It's sad about LTT too. I can't find it…

They don't do the clickbait titles or thumbnails on floatplane(their in house version of youtube), and will often edit the titles if it's too clickbait-ey

Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine

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Post by xxpor » Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 1:43 AM UTC

yread wrote: post #161

xxpor wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Luckily flight plans are always required to be within a certain number of minutes of a place to land, and are certified to operate on one engine for that period. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETOPS

ETOPS helps but it assumes that the engine is just shut down. Here you have compromised aerodynamics and potentially the wing, tail or other systems damaged by the parts of engine

Of course. But simply an engine not working shouldn't be a concern. Obviously land as soon as possible, but it's not really that dangerous (assuming the other engine doesn't fail for the same reason)

Turbine blades failing and piecing a hydraulic line on the other hand...