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Diablo II: Resurrected

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Re: Diablo II: Resurrected

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Post by Can_Not »

grawprog wrote: post #22

I was pretty addicted to Diablo 2 for a couple years as a teenager. Never got into WoW or anything, but I wasted at least one entire summer doing nothing but playing Diablo 2. Never was a big fan of 3. It felt more like playing some kind of diablo themed version of gauntlet or something with a bit more depth. It didn't feel like Diablo 2. I tried another recent one that was supposed keep the spirit of diablo 2. I thi…

> It felt more like playing some kind of diablo themed version of gauntlet

Which gauntlet game is your point of reference?

Re: Diablo II: Resurrected

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Post by YouthfulMarxism »

Negitivefrags wrote: post #62
Const-me wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder how it’s free? I know two business models for free things, pay to win micro-transactions like EA and selling out user’s data like FB, and I’m not a fan of either of them.

PoE is free because of selling cosmetic items. There is no selling user data. I'm not even sure what kind of data a game would have to sell about it's users anyway.

You would be amazed by the amount of data "anti-cheat" spyware called BattleEye amasses about customers of their clients.

Re: Diablo II: Resurrected

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Post by Can_Not »

k__ wrote: post #24

I loved D2 back in the days, but I don't know how good that gameplay aged...

First time I played D2 might have been in 2010 with people who played D1&D2 on release. It was genuinely one of the worst games I had ever played.

Re: Diablo II: Resurrected

#154

Post by effingwewt »

Can_Not wrote: post #151
grawprog wrote: post #22

I was pretty addicted to Diablo 2 for a couple years as a teenager. Never got into WoW or anything, but I wasted at least one entire summer doing nothing but playing Diablo 2. Never was a big fan of 3. It felt more like playing some kind of diablo themed version of gauntlet or something with a bit more depth. It didn't feel like Diablo 2. I tried another recent one that was supposed keep the spirit of diablo 2. I thi…

> It felt more like playing some kind of diablo themed version of gauntlet Which gauntlet game is your point of reference?

I think they mean Gauntlet Legends, it was more ARPG than usual, saved your game even in the arcade.

But it was cartoony, which was my issue with D3. I was done when the ultimate gear farm was running around clouds and rainbows hunting unicorns.

I played path of exile as well but found it too manipulative, and though QOL the mtx were too expensive, I found within a few seasons of game launch I'd spent too much, and that was with running ladders for items to sell.

I'd rather just own games outright. I remember when DLC started on 360 we joked about how long it would be until reverse gear in a car was DLC. Didn't think it'd be quite so soon.

Re: Diablo II: Resurrected

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Post by bloodorange »

eru wrote: post #138
bloodorange wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While Torchlight and Torchlight 2 have a lot of "quality of life" improvements and are decent games in general, I've found that they lack the replay value which Diablo 2 (with LOD) has. I can't exactly say why but this is how it felt to me.

You might have been older when you played Torchlight 2 than when you played Diablo 2?

I'm afraid, to me, that doesn't seem like sufficient explanation. Now, given a choice, even with outdated graphics, I'd rather play Diablo 2 than play Torchlight 2.

Re: Diablo II: Resurrected

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Post by nathias »

throwaway13337 wrote: post #35

If anyone is looking to play a modern version of Diablo 2, the spiritual successor is probably more a game called Path of Exile (rather than Diablo 3 or this). The developers managed to capture the aesthetic while improving the game in the direction of what gave the original game its replay-ability. Their development cycle of new content every 3 or 4 months with a league reset is unique and keeps things fresh. They'r…

Agree 100%, but even PoE doesn't really capture what was for me the best part of d2 (hardcore + the chance to go hostile at any point), they did announce some cut-throat leagues in the beginning but I don't think anything has happened with that ...

Re: Diablo II: Resurrected

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Post by nathias »

The magic of D2 was battlenet with all its glitches that made the game develop in its own weird way (the soj-based economy that developed because a hack was possible for a time, being the prime example).

Re: Diablo II: Resurrected

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Post by thendrill »

Const-me wrote: post #52
throwaway13337 wrote: post #35

If anyone is looking to play a modern version of Diablo 2, the spiritual successor is probably more a game called Path of Exile (rather than Diablo 3 or this). The developers managed to capture the aesthetic while improving the game in the direction of what gave the original game its replay-ability. Their development cycle of new content every 3 or 4 months with a league reset is unique and keeps things fresh. They'r…

I wonder how it’s free? I know two business models for free things, pay to win micro-transactions like EA and selling out user’s data like FB, and I’m not a fan of either of them.

They have the most genius game mechanic/ economic model.

So... You play the game to get loot. The more you play the more loot you get. So of course you wanna save the loot. So you put it in your stash( all players start with 3 stashes) , for safe keeping. The better it gets more loot you get. The moment you start getting the feel of the game (it is one deep game) you discover trading with other players. To trade with other players you discover premium stash tabs.... One tab is around 5 usd. But u need to buy game coins so u always have almost enough for one more stash.

So a premium tab is like a store front where u can display items for sale to other players. So naturally one starts buying more tabs. And more tabs. And then there are the specialty tabs that organize all the loot. Coz why do it manually when u can pay for a stash that auto sorts loot while you gather even more loot...

And suddenly you realize. You have 27 stashes for a total value of 300 usd... Most you have bought one the weekly stash sale.

And that is how PoE is financed. No walls no hidden stuff. Just loot.

yeh also cosmetics in case you wanna look good gathering all the loot.

Re: Diablo II: Resurrected

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Post by squibbles »

regularemployee wrote: post #131
throwaway13337 wrote: post #35

If anyone is looking to play a modern version of Diablo 2, the spiritual successor is probably more a game called Path of Exile (rather than Diablo 3 or this). The developers managed to capture the aesthetic while improving the game in the direction of what gave the original game its replay-ability. Their development cycle of new content every 3 or 4 months with a league reset is unique and keeps things fresh. They'r…

Having been hooked on Diablo 2 in high school, I made the terrible decision of playing Path of Exile (POE) last year during thanks giving break (cuz we had 5 days off, I thought hey maybe I can play POE for a few days). Since then, I have been playing POE non stop. I'd wake up at 3am and play until 8pm. I'd drink alot of water before going to bed so I can wake up early to play. I stopped caring about work, I just pla…

It is unfortunate we do not strive to make "work" as enjoyable and as addictive as some games, while also allowing employees to share significantly in the wealth they help generate. It feels like many video games show us how much potential is hidden away inside people.

Re: Diablo II: Resurrected

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Post by nvarsj »

regularemployee wrote: post #131
throwaway13337 wrote: post #35

If anyone is looking to play a modern version of Diablo 2, the spiritual successor is probably more a game called Path of Exile (rather than Diablo 3 or this). The developers managed to capture the aesthetic while improving the game in the direction of what gave the original game its replay-ability. Their development cycle of new content every 3 or 4 months with a league reset is unique and keeps things fresh. They'r…

Having been hooked on Diablo 2 in high school, I made the terrible decision of playing Path of Exile (POE) last year during thanks giving break (cuz we had 5 days off, I thought hey maybe I can play POE for a few days). Since then, I have been playing POE non stop. I'd wake up at 3am and play until 8pm. I'd drink alot of water before going to bed so I can wake up early to play. I stopped caring about work, I just pla…

Think you learned your lesson? I am the same, and I won't touch addictive games anymore - it takes far too much effort to get unaddicted. Not to mention all that time lost where I would have had more _real_ enjoyment, and enriched my life - reading books, going outside, watching good TV shows and movies, single player games, etc.
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