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Re: Comp.lang.c Google Group has been banned

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Post by ineedasername »

coldtea wrote: post #120
ineedasername wrote: post #94

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People also don't live or structure their lives to satisfy those who had a written conversation and want the copies burned.

Well, they should. Permanent record of every small transgression or juvenile excess or stupidity is inhumane...

What's inhumane is making every small transgression into some stigma that should follow a person around their whole life. I don't think we fix that by erasing all traces of the transgression, which in many cases may be practically impossible.

Re: Comp.lang.c Google Group has been banned

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Post by rsync »

jozefjarosciak wrote: post #91

Hi Folks, I have archives of comp.lang.c group going back 35 years (1986-2021) and when I saw this news I decided to prioritize this one and just started synchronizing it into my archive. In a couple of hours, you should be able to see all of the posts ever made to: comp.lang.c group over at my Usenet Archives: Here it is, enjoy: https://usenetarchives.com/threads.php?id=comp.lang.c&y=0&r=... BTW. I just reworked ent…

"I just reworked entire architecture of the site, which unfortunately also means I have to re-synchronize over 1 billion posts back into the archive."

Thank you very much for creating and maintaining this archive.

I am not sure how big of a commitment I am making when I say this but we (rsync.net) would like to give you free service, forever, to back up this resource.

Please contact us if this would be useful.

Re: Comp.lang.c Google Group has been banned

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Post by andrewflnr »

ineedasername wrote: post #88
blt wrote: post #72

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This is hilarious. I could see something similar happening on HN today.

It shouldn't matter whether or not it's hilarious. Attempts at humor often fall flat on the internet and are somewhat frowned on per HN guidelines. You're objectively wrong and anyone who agrees should chime in to say so. Disagree? Fine, but come to this thread to tell us why. #s

Re humor on HN: not a problem in the guidelines or in practice. HN just has higher standards for humor, and that's a good thing.

Re: Comp.lang.c Google Group has been banned

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Post by vinger »

compiler-guy wrote: post #124
vinger wrote: post #116

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To a sociologist connect with people and work through some pretty heavy emotional challenges is a goodmine and insight into history.

Not sure why the sociologist’s desires should take precedence over the original posters’.

When pompeii was discovered we saw into homes 1,000 years ago. Without any regard to privancy for those covered in rock we broadcast their lives around the globe.

I don't think we give a lot of weight to what the original publishing intent was for anything published 100, 200 years ago, why would the change in the future?

Re: Comp.lang.c Google Group has been banned

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Post by aidenn0 »

cambalache wrote: post #56
fatbird wrote: post #53

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This is an interesting point: that a commitment to practical free speech for everyone, everywhere, will tend towards consolidation of platforms and natural monopolies. Cancellation, deplatforming, etc. might actually drive platform diversity and innovation which will, in turn, further freedom of expression far more effectively than public pressure to tolerate everything.

Careful , it will also drive to isolationism, echo-chambers and the quashing of controversial dissenting opinions. If you dont think right now we have opinions as controversial as "Gay people should be able to marry each other if they want" was 100 years ago,an opinion which right now we consider almost self-evident, I would urge you to think harder.

Forget 100 years ago. I'm only 40 and I remember when anything even remotely suggesting homosexuality was considered perverted, and marriage wasn't even on the table.

Re: Comp.lang.c Google Group has been banned

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Post by dirkt »

blt wrote: post #72
ridiculous_fish wrote: post #54

Some fun comp.lang.c history: Dennis Ritchie posted, sharing an extremely early version of a C compiler. Richard Heathfield (well known C book author) jokingly chided Ritchie for posting something off-topic, as it was not part of ANSI C. In typical Usenet fashion, this triggered a huge thread, arguing over the appropriateness of the joke. Even Linus Torvalds got involved. Apparently Heathfield emailed Ritchie private…

This is hilarious. I could see something similar happening on HN today.

Nerd discussions are always the same, no matter the medium...

Re: Comp.lang.c Google Group has been banned

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Post by dmingod666 »

hvocode wrote: post #109
andybak wrote: post #75

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Dunno. History matters and historians would probably strongly disagree. Some things are more important than you think. Too much gets lost too easily.

Not everything is deserving of being treated as historical artifacts worthy of retention. A friend has lamented that when he was in college in the late 80s, he used USENET as a way to connect with people and work through some pretty heavy emotional challenges. Retaining his personal struggles is hardly "history" - if anything, the historical value of retaining the struggles of one inconsequential person is far lower…

I think, judging what is going to be of value for people in the future is a much harder problem than you make it out to be.
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